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DriveInDriveOut

Inordinately Right
His failing lies....well, with his lies. The only political chum he had working for him was the economy and even that was being powered with record levels of federal borrowing and he was unwilling to shut down the economy long enough to get the plague under control. Instead he tries to minimize it's severity by well, simply lying about it's lethality and easy of transmission.
And so come November the plague and by that time the public had enough of his lies and boorish behavior.
Perhaps the cluckers and holly rollers have come to see why when Trump tried to get in with New York Democrats he was roundly rejected.
The man is done for politically and will never again command the national political stage.
Lol, you quote someone and just go off on a random tangent crying about Trump.

Your TDS is bad leftie.
 

vantexan

Well-Known Member
So among the various benefit programs currently available exactly which ones in your opinion are socialistic in their origin and design and which ones are not. After all you're the one who uses the socialism card frequently but you and many others like you who constantly bash and demonize the left while at the same time holding your hand out to collect every cent you can get.
The socialism card will be used when our government dictates how business can operate, how society functions. We are definitely flirting with that now. I don't use any government programs now but when the time comes I will participate in the one that I contributed to my entire working life just like everyone else. And every cent I get has already been determined by my working years. There will be no holding my hand out to get more and more.
 

vantexan

Well-Known Member
His failing lies....well, with his lies. The only political chum he had working for him was the economy and even that was being powered with record levels of federal borrowing and he was unwilling to shut down the economy long enough to get the plague under control. Instead he tries to minimize it's severity by well, simply lying about it's lethality and easy of transmission.
And so come November the plague and by that time the public had enough of his lies and boorish behavior.
Perhaps the cluckers and holly rollers have come to see why when Trump tried to get in with New York Democrats he was roundly rejected.
The man is done for politically and will never again command the national political stage.
Trump never had the power to shut everything down. Those are decisions left up to state and local governments.
 

bacha29

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Trump never had the power to shut everything down. Those are decisions left up to state and local governments.
By means of executive order which he used freely he could have invoked the Defense Production Act as well as established a set of coordinated national guidelines destined to slow the spread of the contagion rather than one state doing one way ,another state doing it another way and other states doing nothing at all.

And by the way there were people in his group who wanted him to overturn the election through the use of the military and martial law which were being considered.
 

bacha29

Well-Known Member
The socialism card will be used when our government dictates how business can operate, how society functions. We are definitely flirting with that now. I don't use any government programs now but when the time comes I will participate in the one that I contributed to my entire working life just like everyone else. And every cent I get has already been determined by my working years. There will be no holding my hand out to get more and more.
When you take your SS at 66 you'll have your entire contribution drawn out in a matter of a few years so when that happens are you going to stop taking benefits? Tell the SSA to stop sending you checks? And when the only remaining care option for you is a nursing home and your money is all gone will you not apply for Medicaid? You GOPer's are supposed to be the party of personal responsibility but then again it's all just talk not backed up with action? Why? Because personal responsibility often requires personal sacrifice in defense of those ideals and you don't see much of that out of your group anymore.
 

DriveInDriveOut

Inordinately Right
When you take your SS at 66 you'll have your entire contribution drawn out in a matter of a few years so when that happens are you going to stop taking benefits? Tell the SSA to stop sending you checks? And when the only remaining care option for you is a nursing home and your money is all gone will you not apply for Medicaid? You GOPer's are supposed to be the party of personal responsibility but then again it's all just talk not backed up with action? Why? Because personal responsibility often requires personal sacrifice in defense of those ideals and you don't see much of that out of your group anymore.
There it is.
Wouldn't be a day on browncafe without Bacha crying about nursing homes and Medicare.
 

bacha29

Well-Known Member
There it is.
Wouldn't be a day on browncafe without Bacha crying about nursing homes and Medicare.
The question is, will Medicaid be there to pay for your old age nursing care? You're simply assuming that it will be despite your Dear Leader's annual attempt to cut federal support for the programs. Since by all indications you've never held a job your entire life I'm sure you're well versed on how America's social welfare system works.
 

vantexan

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When you take your SS at 66 you'll have your entire contribution drawn out in a matter of a few years so when that happens are you going to stop taking benefits? Tell the SSA to stop sending you checks? And when the only remaining care option for you is a nursing home and your money is all gone will you not apply for Medicaid? You GOPer's are supposed to be the party of personal responsibility but then again it's all just talk not backed up with action? Why? Because personal responsibility often requires personal sacrifice in defense of those ideals and you don't see much of that out of your group anymore.
My full retirement age is 67 but I'm taking it at 62. And again your premise is ridiculous. No one invests in anything with the idea that they'll get out of it exactly what they put into it. Money inflates over time, which depreciates value. Money contributed in the 70's was worth much, much more than equivalent money now. Which is why the government gives SS recipients raises on occasion. As prices increase people get raises to compensate and thus pay more SS tax which in turn gives the SS administration more money to pay SS recipients. It's not like today's recipients paid very little into the system and are really cashing in. A false premise. And once again you're raising the horrible specter of being stuck into a nursing home. Most Americans don't end up in nursing homes. And again I won't. I'll be overseas where I can afford pay as you go medical and pay for live in help if needed.
 

bacha29

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My full retirement age is 67 but I'm taking it at 62. And again your premise is ridiculous. No one invests in anything with the idea that they'll get out of it exactly what they put into it. Money inflates over time, which depreciates value. Money contributed in the 70's was worth much, much more than equivalent money now. Which is why the government gives SS recipients raises on occasion. As prices increase people get raises to compensate and thus pay more SS tax which in turn gives the SS administration more money to pay SS recipients. It's not like today's recipients paid very little into the system and are really cashing in. A false premise. And once again you're raising the horrible specter of being stuck into a nursing home. Most Americans don't end up in nursing homes. And again I won't. I'll be overseas where I can afford pay as you go medical and pay for live in help if needed.
Good concept... that is if you spend the rest of your life overseas and given the many times you've come back I fully expect that you will again only this time for good. Oh, just take a look at your Social Security earnings record and the modest FICA in terms of actual dollars contributed and try to tell me that that you will not outlive and therefore outdraw your total contribution. .
Listen, I would respond to your personal attacks in kind, but I do feel sorry for you so I won't.

I hope one day you can learn to deal with your emotions about the sad destitute end of your family member's life, broke, and living on the government teat.

Best of luck to you comrade.
Don't even try to tell me that you and your family are independently wealthy individuals as evidenced by your disclosure of the fact that your refuse to pay for news and similar information. Oh btw, it's Saturday and that means that the grocery store coupons are out . Don't forget to cut yours out.
 

vantexan

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Good concept... that is if you spend the rest of your life overseas and given the many times you've come back I fully expect that you will again only this time for good. Oh, just take a look at your Social Security earnings record and the modest FICA in terms of actual dollars contributed and try to tell me that that you will not outlive and therefore outdraw your total contribution. .

Don't even try to tell me that you and your family are independently wealthy individuals as evidenced by your disclosure of the fact that your refuse to pay for news and similar information. Oh btw, it's Saturday and that means that the grocery store coupons are out . Don't forget to cut yours out.
By standards in many countries Americans with pensions and/or Social Security are independently wealthy. And you're ignoring what I posted to keep pushing a false premise.

And you need to grasp the idea that one can visit a number of countries and return home. It's called travelling.
 

The big package

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My full retirement age is 67 but I'm taking it at 62. And again your premise is ridiculous. No one invests in anything with the idea that they'll get out of it exactly what they put into it. Money inflates over time, which depreciates value. Money contributed in the 70's was worth much, much more than equivalent money now. Which is why the government gives SS recipients raises on occasion. As prices increase people get raises to compensate and thus pay more SS tax which in turn gives the SS administration more money to pay SS recipients. It's not like today's recipients paid very little into the system and are really cashing in. A false premise. And once again you're raising the horrible specter of being stuck into a nursing home. Most Americans don't end up in nursing homes. And again I won't. I'll be overseas where I can afford pay as you go medical and pay for live in help if needed.
Just better hope senile joe doesn't steal billions of dollars out of social security and give it to Iran like Obama did !!!
 

vantexan

Well-Known Member
By means of executive order which he used freely he could have invoked the Defense Production Act as well as established a set of coordinated national guidelines destined to slow the spread of the contagion rather than one state doing one way ,another state doing it another way and other states doing nothing at all.

And by the way there were people in his group who wanted him to overturn the election through the use of the military and martial law which were being considered.
The Defense Production Act would not have given him the authority to shut down the country. And whether they wanted him to overturn through force or not it didn't happen. You are essentially accusing him of things he didn't do.
 
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