Donald Trump's Go Fund Me Page

bacha29

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Elena Cardone wife of real estate speculator Grant Cardone has launched a GFM page to raise money to pay the 355 million (453M with accrued interest) the Orange Jesus had slapped down to him by the New York judge.
By this PM 2-17 $84,000 had been raised. So they have a bit more to raise.



Now here's what did in OJ and the boys ( good name for a band).

When you apply for multi million dollar loan gaining approval requires a financial statement whereby the applicant signs his name to the financial statement attesting to the truth and accuracy of those financial statements which describes in clear detail the collateral that would be put up by the borrower the back the safety of the loan

The prosecution had stacks and stacks of financial statements signed by a guy named Donald J. Trump that were conclusively proven by the prosecution to be totally bogus and or wildly overstated the value of Trump properties.

And when standing in front of the judge OJ and the boys told the judge that they didn't think that the banks would use the information they provided the banks as the determining factor as to whether or not they would get the loan. And in doing so they for all intents and purposes admitted to the judge that the financial information they gave the banks were total bull feces.

Is it any wonder why the judge absolutely had it with that bunch and unloaded on them?

But don't worry MAGA's. OJ will send Jared back over to Saudi Arabia to get the cash and if necessary onto Moscow to get the rest if needed.
 

vantexan

Well-Known Member
Elena Cardone wife of real estate speculator Grant Cardone has launched a GFM page to raise money to pay the 355 million (453M with accrued interest) the Orange Jesus had slapped down to him by the New York judge.
By this PM 2-17 $84,000 had been raised. So they have a bit more to raise.



Now here's what did in OJ and the boys ( good name for a band).

When you apply for multi million dollar loan gaining approval requires a financial statement whereby the applicant signs his name to the financial statement attesting to the truth and accuracy of those financial statements which describes in clear detail the collateral that would be put up by the borrower the back the safety of the loan

The prosecution had stacks and stacks of financial statements signed by a guy named Donald J. Trump that were conclusively proven by the prosecution to be totally bogus and or wildly overstated the value of Trump properties.

And when standing in front of the judge OJ and the boys told the judge that they didn't think that the banks would use the information they provided the banks as the determining factor as to whether or not they would get the loan. And in doing so they for all intents and purposes admitted to the judge that the financial information they gave the banks were total bull feces.

Is it any wonder why the judge absolutely had it with that bunch and unloaded on them?

But don't worry MAGA's. OJ will send Jared back over to Saudi Arabia to get the cash and if necessary onto Moscow to get the rest if needed.
The judge valued Mar-a-Lago at only $18 million. That alone may get this overturned. Here's an idea. Don't campaign on getting Trump if elected. Might come back to bite the NY AG. And maybe bring these cases against others who've done the same first instead of only going after Trump. And if no one alleged they had been defrauded then maybe the AG has better things to focus on. Political hatchet job.
 

bacha29

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The judge valued Mar-a-Lago at only $18 million. That alone may get this overturned. Here's an idea. Don't campaign on getting Trump if elected. Might come back to bite the NY AG. And maybe bring these cases against others who've done the same first instead of only going after Trump. And if no one alleged they had been defrauded then maybe the AG has better things to focus on. Political hatchet job.
Oh, so we're at the standard MAGA response "Well, everybody else does it" No they do not and if a publicly traded company tried what Trump has been convicted to doing the SEC would come crashing down on it and every exchange the company's stock was traded on would immediately delist it.

Now Trump can and will appeal the judgement. We'll have to wait to see what the higher court has to say about it. If it allows the judgement to stand then there isn't a single FDIC bank in the country that will lend him a dime because you can't believe a word he says both in person and on paper because no bank would be willing to let Donald J Trump drain their mandated loan loss reserves when he stiffs them for the money.
 

vantexan

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Oh, so we're at the standard MAGA response "Well, everybody else does it" No they do not and if a publicly traded company tried what Trump has been convicted to doing the SEC would come crashing down on it and every exchange the company's stock was traded on would immediately delist it.

Now Trump can and will appeal the judgement. We'll have to wait to see what the higher court has to say about it. If it allows the judgement to stand then there isn't a single FDIC bank in the country that will lend him a dime because you can't believe a word he says both in person and on paper because no bank would be willing to let Donald J Trump drain their mandated loan loss reserves when he stiffs them for the money.
His company has made over $100 million for banks in NY. They all stood by him on this and said they loved having his business. The AG brought this suit with no victims. The judge awarded damages to no one, just took his money. This is a political hatchet job, nothing more. No different than giving that Carroll woman all those millions with no proof that he did anything.
 

bacha29

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His company has made over $100 million for banks in NY. They all stood by him on this and said they loved having his business. The AG brought this suit with no victims. The judge awarded damages to no one, just took his money. This is a political hatchet job, nothing more. No different than giving that Carroll woman all those millions with no proof that he did anything.
And just who were those banks? And yes, there were victims. The residents of New York who saw a guy who overstated the value of his properties in order to borrow the most money he could borrow against them while understating the value of those very same properties in order to pay lower taxes. He wanted it both ways.

Not to mention the fact that his company Trump organization has already been convicted of willful tax fraud.
 

bacha29

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This was posted earlier, but nails it

Kevin O'Leary? (lol) He's a mini Trump. TV face born into money always out there hawking some new get rich quick scheme and hostile takeover con man.
Oh and BTW....He has no juris degree and he's not even an American citizen....He's Canadian. So you shouldn't expect him to know a great deal about the American legal system.
 

vantexan

Well-Known Member
And just who were those banks? And yes, there were victims. The residents of New York who saw a guy who overstated the value of his properties in order to borrow the most money he could borrow against them while understating the value of those very same properties in order to pay lower taxes. He wanted it both ways.

Not to mention the fact that his company Trump organization has already been convicted of willful tax fraud.
The banks involved in the loans sir. They all were supportive of Trump. No one went to the state and said they were defrauded. Political hatchet job.

And everyone does it because they don't want to pay those ridiculous taxes. Businesses and the wealthy are fleeing New York. Can't imagine why.
 

vantexan

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Kevin O'Leary? (lol) He's a mini Trump. TV face born into money always out there hawking some new get rich quick scheme and hostile takeover con man.
Oh and BTW....He has no juris degree and he's not even an American citizen....He's Canadian. So you shouldn't expect him to know a great deal about the American legal system.
Spend part of his time in Boston. Considering his success I suspect he knows more about the laws that affect him than you do.
 

bacha29

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The banks involved in the loans sir. They all were supportive of Trump. No one went to the state and said they were defrauded. Political hatchet job.

And everyone does it because they don't want to pay those ridiculous taxes. Businesses and the wealthy are fleeing New York. Can't imagine why.
And just exactly what was the name of those banks that you claim came to Trump's defense? What evidence did they have to offer that supported the accuracy of the Trump financial statements? Are these banks publicly traded and how did doing business with Trump impact shareholder equity? How did doing business with Trump impact their compliance with Dodd Frank? How much federal bailout money did they receive to help them stay afloat during the Bush recession and COVID?

So tell you what. Simply take your corroborated evidence supporting your claim in front of a federal appeals court show them how every other American does exactly what Trump has been convicted of doing in this case.
 

vantexan

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And just exactly what was the name of those banks that you claim came to Trump's defense? What evidence did they have to offer that supported the accuracy of the Trump financial statements? Are these banks publicly traded and how did doing business with Trump impact shareholder equity? How did doing business with Trump impact their compliance with Dodd Frank? How much federal bailout money did they receive to help them stay afloat during the Bush recession and COVID?

So tell you what. Simply take your corroborated evidence supporting your claim in front of a federal appeals court show them how every other American does exactly what Trump has been convicted of doing in this case.
In order for them to go after Trump they needed his financial records. They needed to talk to the banks involved and ask their representatives questions about the loans in front of the jury. None of the banks involved said they were defrauded. That they had very good experiences doing business with the Trump organization. I know you want to smear Trump before the election but this NY lawsuit was a sham. Political hatchet job. And what the hell does Dodd Frank or Federal money have to do with doing business with Trump? He's been doing business in NYC since when? The 70's? He's our next president you know. A bitter pill I'm sure. :)
 

Babagounj

Strength through joy
Oh, so we're at the standard MAGA response "Well, everybody else does it" No they do not and if a publicly traded company tried what Trump has been convicted to doing the SEC would come crashing down on it and every exchange the company's stock was traded on would immediately delist it.

Now Trump can and will appeal the judgement. We'll have to wait to see what the higher court has to say about it. If it allows the judgement to stand then there isn't a single FDIC bank in the country that will lend him a dime because you can't believe a word he says both in person and on paper because no bank would be willing to let Donald J Trump drain their mandated loan loss reserves when he stiffs them for the money.
Many of those same banks are going to go bust very soon.
$929 Billion in commercial loans not being paid will cause major disruptions within the nation's banking system.
 

Babagounj

Strength through joy
NY is so corrupt , if you live there and move away.
They still come after you for taxes due for the entire year when you left.
 

Commercial Inside Release

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A case like this requires an injured party to file a complaint, and provide evidence of injury. There was no injury. The banks were paid, and were happy with the transactions.

Saw a tiny island for sale off the coast of Florida... Beer Can island. A pathetic sandbar full of trash, and probably will be erased by a hurricane in the future.
They want $14.2 million.

Mar-a-Lago at only $18 million? No way!
 

Lineandinitial

Legio patria nostra
Kevin O'Leary? (lol) He's a mini Trump. TV face born into money always out there hawking some new get rich quick scheme and hostile takeover con man.
Oh and BTW....He has no juris degree and he's not even an American citizen....He's Canadian. So you shouldn't expect him to know a great deal about the American legal system.
His comments, unlike yours, make complete and perfect sense.
His success, unlike yours, indicates he may know what he’s talking about, unlike you

It’s so predictable that the libs attack a successful capitalist because they will never achieve what that person has, plus they hate America and our form of civilized society.

This is just another pathetic liberal tactic to bleed money from Trump to keep him out of the WH.

Ain’t gonna’ work!
 

oldngray

nowhere special
A case like this requires an injured party to file a complaint, and provide evidence of injury. There was no injury. The banks were paid, and were happy with the transactions.

Saw a tiny island for sale off the coast of Florida... Beer Can island. A pathetic sandbar full of trash, and probably will be erased by a hurricane in the future.
They want $14.2 million.

Mar-a-Lago at only $18 million? No way!
The question I never heard answered is where that judge got the $18 million number from. Throw that out and the whole case should go away. Besides the courtroom antics of the judge warrant an automatic appeal.
 

Up In Smoke

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The question I never heard answered is where that judge got the $18 million number from. Throw that out and the whole case should go away. Besides the courtroom antics of the judge warrant an automatic appeal.
The 18M is the valuation assessment for county taxes. The judge never put a value on the property, only used the numbers provided on open property records from Palm Beach County.
 

Lineandinitial

Legio patria nostra
The 18M is the valuation assessment for county taxes. The judge never put a value on the property, only used the numbers provided on open property records from Palm Beach County.
There’s a lot more to it than that, if you care to be objective about it.
The tax codes allow one to value a business less its expenses; they vary and have thousands of exceptions.
I thought you knew about $$
 
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