Organizing PT Sups?

[Hocus_Pocus333]

Hey all,

I just wanted to ask if any thought has ever been given to trying to organize Pt belt sups? Has this ever been tried?

Maybe I am just inexperienced or naivete, but it seems as though there would be a lot of mutual benefits to this...

 

[dupa]

Maybe I am just inexperienced or naivete

yes

 

[HardknocksUPSer]

Hey all,

I just wanted to ask if any thought has ever been given to trying to organize Pt belt sups? Has this ever been tried?

Maybe I am just inexperienced or naivete, but it seems as though there would be a lot of mutual benefits to this...

Explain "organize"?

 

[MC4YOU2]

I believe there was some legislation discussed on here (maybe in California?) that would allow for employees in supervision to unionize in that state. The talk died down at some point and faded away. It would be interesting to see how that might work.

 

[Big Arrow Down...D]

Hey all,

I just wanted to ask if any thought has ever been given to trying to organize Pt belt sups? Has this ever been tried?

Maybe I am just inexperienced or naivete, but it seems as though there would be a lot of mutual benefits to this...

It's like having hourlies that you can really treat like S*....

 

[Hocus_Pocus333]

Maybe I am just inexperienced or naivete

yes

Hey, I never said it would be easy. But it seems like PT sups would have almost every incentive to join the union...
Likewise, it seems like the union would have every incentive to make the belt supervisor position one that is overseen by a union member.

Could you explain to me why I'm wrong?

 

[Hocus_Pocus333]

Explain "organize"?

Good question.
I meant join the teamsters.

 

[HardknocksUPSer]

Good question.
I meant join the teamsters.

Why would PT sups join the teamsters? Not trying to put you down, just questioning you to get an idea of your thoughts on the subject?

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

Hey, I never said it would be easy. But it seems like PT sups would have almost every incentive to join the union...
Likewise, it seems like the union would have every incentive to make the belt supervisor position one that is overseen by a union member.

Could you explain to me why I'm wrong?

That would be a fun union meeting.

 

[MyTripisCut]

Hocus pocus, my kids love you in frosty....

 

[FrigidFTSup]

That would be a fun union meeting.

I'd buy season tickets.

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

I'd buy season tickets.

Throw in Some alcohol.... Lamo

 

[FrigidFTSup]

believe there was some legislation discussed on here (maybe in California?) that would allow for employees in supervision to unionize in that state. The talk died down at some point and faded away. It would be interesting to see how that might work.

Up until Northwest Airlines was absorbed into Delta they were unionized all the way to the Vice President level. It's not unheard of, just extremely rare.

 

[FrigidFTSup]

Throw I. Some alcohol.... Lamo

Make a killing on PPV

 

[Shifting Contents]

I've heard of law enforcement "management" (sgt - lt) joining unions as a supervisory group

 

[PiedmontSteward]

PT Supervisors don't have "hire/fire" responsibilities (hell, they're not even supposed to send off warning letters on their own) and fulfill more of a "foreman" role than a true managerial one.

It'd be interesting to see their "managerial" status challenged but I don't think we will until UPS really starts taking away from them. Maybe next contract.

 

[Brown Matrix]

Why would PT sups join the teamsters? Not trying to put you down, just questioning you to get an idea of your thoughts on the subject?

yea the goal is the be a full time manager. it conflicts with their career path.

 

[Hocus_Pocus333]

I see, on paper that it does. But in reality, if most PT sups never go on to being a FT sup, then doesn't it make more sense for them to be sided with the union?
Most of what I've read on here, and most of the PT sups I've talked to in purpose regret the decision to go sup...

 

[Hocus_Pocus333]

yea the goal is the be a full time manager. it conflicts with their career path.

I see, on paper that it does. But in reality, if most PT sups never go on to being a FT sup, then doesn't it make more sense for them to be sided with the union?
Most of what I've read on here, and most of the PT sups I've talked to in purpose regret the decision to go sup...
That was just my line of thinking, in terms of strategies to improve operations at UPS, while strengthening the union as well...

 

[Hocus_Pocus333]

That would be a fun union meeting.

It would be great if my local union entertained these kinds of questions...