Preloaders who have Orion.

[wayfair]

HAHA.....really? You expect 50pcs in one section to be in complete order?

Hopefully you don't say that to your loader.

did I say complete order??? I typed in, "at least try"

I don't tell the loader, he's gone by the time I get there and I know it's not his decision or "plan" to have that many pieces/deliveries to be loaded per section.. I talk/inform the dispatcher and let my on cars know what a sheety decision it is to put that much work in a limited space

 

[jibbs]

did I say complete order??? I typed in, "at least try"

That's the goal with ORION.


...We fail to meet that goal fairly often.


Hardknocks, best advice with this BS I have for you is to try to get put on the same pull every day so you can learn the trucks. Writing PAL #'s becomes near worthless once you're familiar enough with the way you need to build each load.


Worse comes to worst? Learn how to peel a PAL label off and reapply it while you carry and load a package. Load the package, slap the PAL on the outward-facing side. They want 4 numbers? it, peel-and-reapply PALs and give them entire addresses and everybody wins.

It's not as tricky as some people make it out to be, those with fat fingers notwithstanding....

 

[iDontWorkAtUps]

If i have time I take the Pal Label off and stick it where the driver can see it without having to touch the box, usually makes them happy

 

[Back first]

As a driver who recently took a 22.2 preload job (going back driving first chance I get). Preload is hard work, I load 4 PC's. i try and load like a driver. I will never complain about all the work on my PC after working preload. Imo preload is much harder than driving.

 

[HardknocksUPSer]

As a driver who recently took a 22.2 preload job (going back driving first chance I get). Preload is hard work, I load 4 PC's. i try and load like a driver. I will never complain about all the work on my PC after working preload. Imo preload is much harder than driving.

Orion has made my job hell, I'm expected to load my 5 cars daily at 1200-1300 peices a day. Not on a boxline, I'm in a belt to car center so I'm force fed all of the volume, I'm expected to write all 4 numbers of the PAL on EVERY single box, roll, also expected to right RDL and RDR on every box. It's gotten crazy stupid.

 

[iDontWorkAtUps]

Orion has made my job hell, I'm expected to load my 5 cars daily at 1200-1300 peices a day. Not on a boxline, I'm in a belt to car center so I'm force fed all of the volume, I'm expected to write all 4 numbers of the PAL on EVERY single box, roll, also expected to right RDL and RDR on every box. It's gotten crazy stupid.

I never write RDL/RDR on a box unless its on the shelf above it

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

Preloaders should not be directed to write on the boxes or pull the PAL labels. That is a waste of time.

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

Preloaders should not be directed to write on the boxes or pull the PAL labels. That is a waste of time.

It's to verify that they looked at the address label.

 

[iDontWorkAtUps]

I usually pull the PALs on as many boxes as i can depending on flow. Doesnt that help with using Orion?

 

[iDontWorkAtUps]

Also helps cut down misloads

 

[govols019]

Preloaders should not be directed to write on the boxes or pull the PAL labels. That is a waste of time.

Once again, you have never done the job so your opinion is irrelevant.

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

I usually pull the PALs on as many boxes as i can depending on flow. Doesnt that help with using Orion?

Nope.

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

Once again, you have never done the job so your opinion is irrelevant.

You don't have to know how to load 'em to deliver 'em.

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

It's to verify that they looked at the address label.

Did they? All they are doing is writing down the last four from the PAL------did I miss the part where they are comparing the PAL with the address label?

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

Did they? All they are doing is writing down the last four from the PAL------did I miss the part where they are comparing the PAL with the address label?

Yes,yes you did.
They do it for the same reason we have to write the last four numbers on the ond sheet.

 

[BakerMayfield2018]

Yes,yes you did.
They do it for the same reason we have to write the last four numbers on the ond sheet.

Loaders don't look at the actual address label at all unfortunately. I don't want to agree with Dave and I hate you for making me. But no , loaders don't look at actual address label at all. Just the pall. Unfortunately. When I ask a simple question of where pkg is going. They have no clue. I say the address. They look at me like a deer in headlights.

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

Loaders don't look at the actual address label at all unfortunately. I don't want to agree with Dave and I hate you for making me. But no , loaders don't look at actual address label at all. Just the pall. Unfortunately. When I ask a simple question of where pkg is going. They have no clue. I say the address. They look at me like a deer in headlights.

When they write the numbers its to show that they looked at the label.



Whatever.

 

[iDontWorkAtUps]

Loaders don't look at the actual address label at all unfortunately. I don't want to agree with Dave and I hate you for making me. But no , loaders don't look at actual address label at all. Just the pall. Unfortunately. When I ask a simple question of where pkg is going. They have no clue. I say the address. They look at me like a deer in headlights.

We get counted as a misload on our sheets if there is a flip or address labels don't match. They tell us to circle address on label and pal.. atleast check em. Atleast on our belt.

 

[Box Ox]

I will never complain about all the work on my PC after working preload. Imo preload is much harder than driving.

Absolutely this. I'm on both sides as well. Drivers who never preloaded, preloaded briefly or preloaded in the past should understand that if a permanent PTer gives them a bad load, it probably wasn't because they weren't trying. These days preloaders get drilled very heavily (even more so than just a few years ago) and can't control how it's managed to the extent drivers can manage their work.

Choosing between one or the other, I'd take a day on the road over preload every time.

 

[govols019]

You don't have to know how to load 'em to deliver 'em.

But you do need to know how to load them if you're going to tell people that the methods UPS wants them to use is a waste of time.