Question on Senority

[burrheadd]

Have you talked to a steward yet?

If bid sheets weren’t put up for the other promotions, then there’s a colossal problem.

Even if they got put up and just never announced.

Everyone should have had a chance to sign the sheets.

As to the transfer, I don’t know. @BigUnionGuy may be able to give more answers.

Aren’t you helpful if it was a dude you’d be like

 

[Brownwind]

What really concerns me is if he's right about them not posting up jobs. That's a big no no

Gotta keep track of your seniority. Sometimes a side deal is made and your golden until situations change.

 

[Commercial Inside Release]

I exercise constantly if that says anything!

This is good news! A firm hiney means they'll really try to keep you around.

 

[burrheadd]

Really, you think so? How do you think that will happen?
If that is the case, luckily the other center managers wants me on their team, and worse comes to worse I’ll always have a spot in preload. Hopefully not the case!

Am I hot? Well I’m not a feeder driver and I exercise constantly if that says anything! Just kidding feeders, I respect what you all do!

Even the new girls raggin on the fatass feeder drivers LMAO

Freddy the feeder driver on his day off

 

[KatieH]

This is good news! A firm hiney means they'll really try to keep you around.

Okay this made me LOL

 

[KatieH]

Even the new girls raggin on the fatass feeder drivers LMAO
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Freddy the feeder driver on his day off

 

[KatieH]

Thanks for all your help gents! I’m going to visit hr and a steward tomorrow. I’m super bummed if we haven’t been promoted yet due to sign sheets we didn’t know about. I do wish the communication in UPS was better. That’s the biggest problem I’ve seen through the years here.

I’ll try to visit this later but seriously appreciate all the feedback! Have a great day all

 

[DELACROIX]

Really, you think so? How do you think that will happen?
If that is the case, luckily the other center managers wants me on their team, and worse comes to worse I’ll always have a spot in preload. Hopefully not the case!

Am I hot? Well I’m not a feeder driver and I exercise constantly if that says anything! Just kidding feeders, I respect what you all do!

Of course you just innocently asserted that every “feeder driver “ is a big, fat .

Not necessarily true…

 

[Brown Down]

Of course you just innocently asserted that every “feeder driver “ is a big, fat .

Not necessarily true…

Maybe she should how's said more than 5 years in feeder driver

 

[UnionStrong]

Of course you just innocently asserted that every “feeder driver “ is a big, fat .

Not necessarily true…

 

[UnionStrong]

Have you talked to a steward yet?

If bid sheets weren’t put up for the other promotions, then there’s a colossal problem.

Even if they got put up and just never announced.

Everyone should have had a chance to sign the sheets.

As to the transfer, I don’t know. @BigUnionGuy may be able to give more answers.

Look at you, Ese!

 

[UnionStrong]

Agree. A little more info would be helpful.

Ask wifey

 

[542thruNthru]

Hi all!! Sorry got caught up. Yes I’m a she! In SoCal. And no there is no bidding sheet for drivers.

Yes there are no bid sheets in the West. We have Article 7 PT to FT list. You sign up once and thats it. It also doesnt go by building seniority. It goes off of company seniority in your whole local. So if someone from another building in your local wants that full time job and they have more seniority than you.... You're SOL.

I have seen bid sheets for preload when there is extra work for twilight. But never for drivers. However there’s a Saturday sign up sheet which I sign every week, and usually I can work a Saturday. Yes I am part time. When I was hired for driving, my Cover position was never temporary. It was always explained to me that I would get to the 22.4 position after covering (when those positions were available). I have seen the other covers get promoted to 22.4 through the years. And this is the first time in 4 years I’m back in preload, I have been driving consistently ever since I started.

You're a cover driver. You are not entitled to 8 hours unless scheduled to drive.

Of course, after the contract, all our 22.4s were promoted, and that position was eliminated. So it doesn’t help we have too many full time drivers now and so us covers got kicked back. i hope all answered all questions!
And thank you again.

To answer your questions, we have transfer language (article 6.6 WRSA) and if the company can hire FT drivers on a 6-1-1 basis. If they have hired 6 inside hires they now have to bring over one transfer. They can then hire a outside hire if they choose.

Just because you're a cover driver does not mean you just over everyone else who wants to drive who is not a cover driver.

Better get used to the insider work. With the layoffs SoCal is having, per our contract no cover driver can work in the locals jurisdiction if even 1 FT driver is laid off.

Good luck.

 

[Brown Down]

That explains the transfer and the bid sheets but not the newer part timer driving. I will admit it's been a long time since I've had to deal with these things.

 

[Brownwind]

Ask wifey

She checked out after my lunch break.


I used to have her ride along when I deliver beyond the gulch. This time of year is Blah and cold. I probably shouldn’t have a rider but hours in the middle of literally nowhere I’ll take my chances. I bet you city folk can’t get away with this

 

[Brownwind]

Yes there are no bid sheets in the West. We have Article 7 PT to FT list. You sign up once and thats it. It also doesnt go by building seniority. It goes off of company seniority in your whole local. So if someone from another building in your local wants that full time job and they have more seniority than you.... You're SOL.

You're a cover driver. You are not entitled to 8 hours unless scheduled to drive.

To answer your questions, we have transfer language (article 6.6 WRSA) and if the company can hire FT drivers on a 6-1-1 basis. If they have hired 6 inside hires they now have to bring over one transfer. They can then hire a outside hire if they choose.

Just because you're a cover driver does not mean you just over everyone else who wants to drive who is not a cover driver.

Better get used to the insider work. With the layoffs SoCal is having, per our contract no cover driver can work in the locals jurisdiction if even 1 FT driver is laid off.

Good luck.

Thank you. Excellent explanation

 

[UnionStrong]

She checked out after my lunch break.


I used to have her ride along when I deliver beyond the gulch. This time of year is Blah and cold. I probably shouldn’t have a rider but hours in the middle of literally nowhere I’ll take my chances. I bet you city folk can’t get away with this

Not worth losing the job over

 

[Brownwind]

Not worth losing the job over

I’m good. I never worried about it for a second.
I literally deliver in the middle of nowhere. The only reason I have a p800 is because of the bulk from the homesteaders. I can’t even relate to how most of you are going through.

 

[burrheadd]

I’m good. I never worried about it for a second.
I literally deliver in the middle of nowhere. The only reason I have a p800 is because of the bulk from the homesteaders. I can’t even relate to how most of you are going through.

The last 15 years I worked my bid started 70 miles from the building it was 270-300 miles in a sprinter except for 4 or 5 days in the winter it was awesome I delivered many days in the summer in t-shirt and gym shorts. Boss had to call me and see where I was if he wanted to ride along

 

[KatieH]

Yes there are no bid sheets in the West. We have Article 7 PT to FT list. You sign up once and thats it. It also doesnt go by building seniority. It goes off of company seniority in your whole local. So if someone from another building in your local wants that full time job and they have more seniority than you.... You're SOL.

You're a cover driver. You are not entitled to 8 hours unless scheduled to drive.

To answer your questions, we have transfer language (article 6.6 WRSA) and if the company can hire FT drivers on a 6-1-1 basis. If they have hired 6 inside hires they now have to bring over one transfer. They can then hire a outside hire if they choose.

Just because you're a cover driver does not mean you just over everyone else who wants to drive who is not a cover driver.

Better get used to the insider work. With the layoffs SoCal is having, per our contract no cover driver can work in the locals jurisdiction if even 1 FT driver is laid off.

Good luck.

Thank you SO MUCH for this detailed information. So it might be another 4 years until I’m full time. Then it is what it is! Oh well, I accept my fate. It’s rough going from rpcd pay with over time to only 21 an hour pt. Welp, looks like it’s time to get a second job!

Really appreciate you giving me the time and feedback. And all of you! Thanks again and good luck out there!