Quick question about refusing overtime or what we call it where I am - 5 and done

Discussion in 'UPS Discussions' started by Go Gorilla, Mar 27, 2012.

  1. Go Gorilla

    Go Gorilla New Member

    Can a part time loader call it quits for the night at the five hour mark or are part time loaders required to stay more then five hours if they are told to? I can’t seem to get a for sure answer to this question. Most say yes where I work but can’t find it exactly in the agreement now that I’ve been challenged about it by a new coordinator. I’ve been there for five years now and I’ve heard as soon as it’s five hours you can leave and I have been leaving most of the time when I do work five hours. I figured I met the maximum required hours they can keep me and honored the agreement no matter what they want or need. Most people would think overtime would be something others want but not me. I want my time for me as much as I can get it and I only want to give UPS my maximum requirement if it’s in the UPS agreement.
  2. klolx

    klolx New Member

    Don't you get overtime after 3 1/2 hours? You must be making bank!!!
  3. Go Gorilla

    Go Gorilla New Member

    I don't get overtime after 3 1/2 hours. I only get overtime after 5 hours.
  4. raceanoncr

    raceanoncr Well-Known Member

    Refusing to do anything here will get you fired so fast your feet won't even touch the floor when they escort you out.

    A nice, gentle discussion with other supe/mngrs might resolve your issue. If not, talk to your union steward. They may be able to come to a resolution.

    But, DO NOT ever refuse to do something, unless it is safety related. You always grieve LATER! And in this case, if you've made your concerns known, it may be a grievable issue.

    My opinion? Take it while you can. This company changes so much, internally, that that O/T may not ever be there again for you. YOUR circumstances may change and you want the O/T back but now can't get it.

    A rule of thumb that I used around here was, just put up with it for two weeks, it'll change, and you know what? It, almost, always did.

    As the old saying goes, "Be careful what you wish for".

    Good luck.
  5. Go Gorilla

    Go Gorilla New Member

    Thanks but no one there knew for certain, they all just thought it was the case. I wish I DIDN'T work there, but I do only need a little money at this moment so I had to work somewhere. More time for other things right now is more important to me for what other things I'd rather get done. Not much OT there at all but it doesn't matter to me because I'd rather work only a four hour day if that were possible.
  6. Brownslave688

    Brownslave688 You want a toe? I can get you a toe.

    It's called a job you work for someone else they pay you for your time. You stay until they tell you you can go wow!!!!! If u want to come and go as you please start your own business but only working 4 hours a day you likely won't succeed at that either.
  7. dilligaf

    dilligaf IN VINO VERITAS

    It depends........................ on where you are on seniority and what is being asked. Let me clarify: This is a good rule of thumb - Management has to offer extra hours from the top down but if everyone declines then they force from the bottom up.

    If you (and everyone else) are being told that everyone has to stay to get the work done, then you stay and get the work done. If management is asking for volunteers to then the rule above applies. Big difference in the wording. Don't ever refuse to work, it may cost you your job. Work first grieve later.
  8. Go Gorilla

    Go Gorilla New Member

    Thanks dilligaf. Thanks for answering the question.
  9. Go Gorilla

    Go Gorilla New Member

    DUh, wow!!! You are smart. That sure was a big help. wow!!
  10. old brown shoe

    old brown shoe 30 year driver

    If you don't work with them when they need some extra work done don't expect anything in exchange when you may need it.
  11. bmwmc

    bmwmc Active Member

    Fastest way to cut your hours is to ask management for more. They can't help themselves when there's an opportunity to deny you what you want. A lot of the managers are little Napoleon's desperately trying to exercise any sliver of power.

    Don't believe me? Try it out and in a couple of weeks or less you'll be the first person they'll send home when its time to trim down the bodies on the shift.:runcirclsmiley2:
  12. brownmonster

    brownmonster Man of Great Wisdom

    Do what us drivers do. When it hits 8 hours we bring it back.
  13. UPSGUY72

    UPSGUY72 Well-Known Member

    You can't leave untill they tell you your done for the day
    . If you decided to take it upon yourself just to leave after so much time you might want to start looking for a new job.... You will eventually get fired.

    There is no maximum number of hour they can keep you in the contract. However there is a minimum number of hours that you a guaranteed to get paid for if you request them....

    You been with UPS 5 years and you still haven't read the contract ????
  14. DS

    DS Fenderbender

    You must be kidding
  15. Cementups

    Cementups Box Monkey

    I find it amusing that this guy is complaining about getting more than 5 hours per day and yet the other day we were all talking in a post about another guy complaining that he is being sent home before his 3.5 is up. Amazes me how different it is in different parts of the country.
  16. klolx

    klolx New Member

    This cracked me up so bad! LOL!!!!
  17. nystripe96

    nystripe96 Active Member

    Wow, why haven't you quit yet? You want "me time"? Me time is what the weekend is for. Man up & work till the job is done. You should be thankful for the opportunity to get some OT, Ughhhhhh!!!!
  18. brownmonster

    brownmonster Man of Great Wisdom

    Ya think?
  19. washington57

    washington57 New Member

    It's a part-time job. Why would anyone begrudge him for not wanting to work more than 25 hours a week at UPS. Especially in when combined with another job.

    Seniority prevails and you can leave after 5 hours. You don't ask, you tell your supervisor.
  20. gostillerz

    gostillerz Member

    Maybe he has a full time job or goes to college! When you were hired, you were told shifts were 4-8am, 5-9pm..whatever. You work the hours for the shift you applied for (within reason). I'm a reg/temp, so if I'm not driving, I'm on local sort (which starts at 5:30). Do you honestly think they could fire me if they called at 3pm directing me to report for work at 3:30 because they're "heavy" and I refused? Good luck with that slave!