R.I.P. Fred S

[UnionStrong]

Amazon’s investing $4B in rural America to expand our delivery network, offer even faster delivery, and create more than 100,000 new jobs​

Investment is creating local jobs in small towns across the U.S. and providing customers in those areas with even faster delivery across a wide selection of products.

They’re gonna deplete the labor force in short order.

 

[BrownFlush]

They’re gonna deplete the labor force in short order.

Greed has killed the Brown Giant.
Stupidity is killing Fedx.
Amazon has both greed and stupidity going for it.

 

[UnionStrong]

Greed has killed the Brown Giant.
Stupidity is killing Fedx.
Amazon has both greed and stupidity going for it.

Thank god my pension is funded for the next 30 years

 

[59 Dano]

Quite a story you’re telling with no actual knowledge. You have no way of knowing that’s the Primary reason for service failures. Keep pretending only the super special Express drivers can make time commits. I hear those Express guys are really doing a bang up job with the Ground freight in Canada. The fact is the entire company is horribly managed and they are trying to do everything on the cheap. Treat workers like crap and you have crap service.

I never said it was a primary reason for service failures. Try to keep up.

 

[UnionStrong]

I never said it was a primary reason for service failures. Try to keep up.

That is in fact, not what you said. He lacks discernment and critical thinking skills. Carry on.

 

[59 Dano]

He had the timeline wrong, but ultimately he was right as to the company's intent. Today is the culmination of decades of planning. FedEx didn't just decide recently to do this. It involved getting the Ground infrastructure in place and he was saying they're doing that to replace us which you mocked relentlessly. And FedEx lied to a lot of employees to keep us at it rather than admit the job had no future and that's what they wanted.

He made about a million predictions about all kinds of things. One of them, years and years after it was supposed to have already happened, started to happen somewhat. I'd trust your predictions on the future of atomic energy technology more than I'd trust him on what he had for lunch today.

 

[vantexan]

Amazon’s investing $4B in rural America to expand our delivery network, offer even faster delivery, and create more than 100,000 new jobs​

Investment is creating local jobs in small towns across the U.S. and providing customers in those areas with even faster delivery across a wide selection of products.

The mistakes will keep coming....

How's this a bad thing?

 

[UnionStrong]

How's this a bad thing?

Mediocre pay for everyone! No benefits, no pension. Sounds familiar….

 

[BrownFlush]

How's this a bad thing?

Like I said.
Stupidity is killing Fedx.

 

[BrownFlush]

How's this a bad thing?

Rural routes make no money.
They lose money.

 

[vantexan]

Mediocre pay for everyone! No benefits, no pension. Sounds familiar….

But Amazon delivery isn't what you do or what FedEx does. Line them up and knock them off with no pickups. Mostly light packages. And in the rural areas they're hiring in those jobs would be a Godsend. Sure, better pay and real benefits would be great. It may be the competition for workers that brings that back to FedEx and gets Amazon to do the same. Or gets them unionized. But it's a start.

 

[UnionStrong]

But Amazon delivery isn't what you do or what FedEx does. Line them up and knock them off with no pickups. Mostly light packages. And in the rural areas they're hiring in those jobs would be a Godsend. Sure, better pay and real benefits would be great. It may be the competition for workers that brings that back to FedEx and gets Amazon to do the same. Or gets them unionized. But it's a start.

Amazon burns through the labor pool due to unreasonable quotas on drivers. It’s the way they roll. Only so many drivers out there.

 

[BrownFlush]

The only way the Brown Giant serviced every address and made billions of dollars is the volume. It's gone.
They stack it now and run 10 stops up a holler instead of one. No service.
Amazon will find out even paying slave wages, there's no money in it.

 

[vantexan]

Rural routes make no money.
They lose money.

Sure, driving big thirsty step vans by highly paid labor. Amazon's business model is different. They don't have hundreds of thousands of couriers/drivers running around making pickups. They just deliver the freight moved efficiently to their warehouses and efficiently out of their warehouses.

 

[vantexan]

Amazon burns through the labor pool due to unreasonable quotas on drivers. It’s the way they roll. Only so many drivers out there.

And only so many jobs that pay anything. I'd rather drive for Amazon than for comparable pay FedEx. Would do that all day over stocking shelves at a supermarket.

 

[UnionStrong]

And only so many jobs that pay anything. I'd rather drive for Amazon than for comparable pay FedEx. Would do that all day over stocking shelves at a supermarket.

You think so, I doubt it. the super market. There are easier job’s that pay almost or more than Amazon.

 

[vantexan]

The only way the Brown Giant serviced every address and made billions of dollars is the volume. It's gone.
They stack it now and run 10 stops up a holler instead of one. No service.
Amazon will find out even paying slave wages, there's no money in it.

You're mad at Amazon because they took away your volume. I remember when they first started delivering everyone said they'd fail and that it wouldn't affect UPS/FedEx at all. It has and they're expanding. They aren't trying to be UPS/FedEx, they're just delivering their own freight.

 

[BrownFlush]

I'd rather do this than that only last so long.
Driving back from your last stop for 60 miles, in the cold dark, and clocking off at 9 after getting beat to death on secondary roads all day wears thin fast if you're not making your bills.
The grocery store guy was in a heated isle and went home at 4.

 

[BrownFlush]

You're mad at Amazon because they took away your volume. I remember when they first started delivering everyone said they'd fail and that it wouldn't affect UPS/FedEx at all. It has and they're expanding. They aren't trying to be UPS/FedEx, they're just delivering their own freight.

Mad? I could care less. They can have it.

 

[vantexan]

You think so, I doubt it. the super market. There are easier job’s that pay almost or more than Amazon.

Not in the rural areas they're expanding into. A lot of small towns in this country that lost a factory and have not much more than fast food, groceries, city and county jobs. Driving a school bus. A lot of those jobs are part time. If Amazon paid me $19hr to work 55 hrs in those areas I'd consider myself lucky.