BrownFlush
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Sounds more like UPS.
R.I.P. Fred S
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Exactly
Race to the bottom of no service
It will be fine
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I remember all the Express guys telling me it was impossible for Ground to handle Express.
BrownFlush
Woke Racist Reigning Ban King
And you bought it.
Look what it got ya.
BrownFlush
Woke Racist Reigning Ban King
It looks like both UPS an FedX keep missing golden opportunities to bury one another.
Imagine how lucrative the company could be if management would actually manage.
Imagine how lucrative the company could be if management would actually manage.
Sounds to me like they're trying to make a square peg fit into a round hole. Let see how the "highly motivated" Ground workforce handles pickups, haz, deadlines, late freight before getting too confident. A lot more to Express than just lining them up and knocking them off.
I didn't buy anything. I was on this forum advocating for a union in 2010 as well as at my station. But unless we got put under the NLRA we couldn't unionize station by station. And after the vote to allow us was tabled.by Congress it was all over. Except for the occasional UPS guy dropping by to tell us what fools we are for not joining a union.
It will be fine
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Ground has been doing it for about 18 months in some areas already, but don’t let reality change what you believe.
BrownFlush
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You seem to forget that he was saying it was imminent as far back as 2010. Then he said it was going to be announced at the 2012 annual stockholder meeting (or whatever it's called) and he'd seen all the internal documents. Nothing of the sort was announced, and he went back to saying it's imminent for another decade. And then finally after over a decade, they announce plans for something similar to what he said he had all sorts of intimate knowledge of and he takes a victory lap.
Bear in mind that he rarely had any idea what he was talking about for that period because he wasn't employed by the company for most of it, if any of it.
As for me, still with the company.
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Oh, they can handle it. They just can't handle it well. There are plenty of PO service failures by contracted drivers and the primary reason for it boils down to "I don't get paid by the hour and I'm not going go out of may way to extend my day if I don't get paid extra for it. It'll get there when I get to that area."
I've said it here plenty of times: society has become so accustomed to bad service that they just accept it.
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It's not that much more. Most resi recipients aren't home during the day and no one notices (or cares) if the guy who leaves the Otterbox they ordered is in proper uniform or not. They don't know or care that it was due at 1200 and didn't get delivered until 1357. It requires a signature? No problem, Cletus will sign for the customer and most of the time the customer didn't know a signature was required anyway. Getting a signature at a business stop? No problem, Cletus will just release it or sign for the recipient and the recipients think the driver is doing them a solid.
Does that lead to some major CS disasters? Absolutely, but screwups of that magnitude are the exception rather than the rule. The only real issue is making service and there are plenty of shippers who have no problem with the PO package that they paid $87 to ship gets there at 1105 when they can get their money back because it was 35 minutes late.
It will be fine
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Quite a story you’re telling with no actual knowledge. You have no way of knowing that’s the Primary reason for service failures. Keep pretending only the super special Express drivers can make time commits. I hear those Express guys are really doing a bang up job with the Ground freight in Canada. The fact is the entire company is horribly managed and they are trying to do everything on the cheap. Treat workers like crap and you have crap service.
He had the timeline wrong, but ultimately he was right as to the company's intent. Today is the culmination of decades of planning. FedEx didn't just decide recently to do this. It involved getting the Ground infrastructure in place and he was saying they're doing that to replace us which you mocked relentlessly. And FedEx lied to a lot of employees to keep us at it rather than admit the job had no future and that's what they wanted.
You're looking at this from the company perspective. I'm looking at it from the pov of the employee. Everything is on one guy again just like decades ago. There's no divying up the work between divisions. One guy to drive a large stepvan. To handle a lot of bulk. To meet service. Deal with haz. Run a sort. Help with the reload. All the work of Express and Ground back together with a glaring difference. Back then we had excellent pay for the time. Excellent benefits. A future if we hung in there. Never mind what eventually happened. The company is now wanting people to sacrifice the best years of their lives running fire drills every day without the better pay, healthcare, and pension. @It will be fine gets insulted thinking I'm saying people at Ground can't handle what Express does. He misses my point. It's not that they can't handle it, it's adding all the extra burden to them without the better pay, etc and expecting them to be fine with that. That they will stick with it. Delivering Amazon for nearly the same pay suddenly looks a lot more attractive. I think FedEx is kidding themselves.
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Sorry, but I don’t care anymore.
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BrownFlush
Woke Racist Reigning Ban King
Amazon’s investing $4B in rural America to expand our delivery network, offer even faster delivery, and create more than 100,000 new jobs
Investment is creating local jobs in small towns across the U.S. and providing customers in those areas with even faster delivery across a wide selection of products.The mistakes will keep coming....
