Republican Rewrite of US Taxcode

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Bad Moon Risen'
ever hear of farms
These same farms that get a goverment handout when it rains too much, doesn't rain enough, prop up prices for milk, corn or wheat when commodity prices are too low, paid to NOT plant acreage, get a property tax discount for tilled land, etc.

I'm sorry but I don't feel sorry for them. A lot of farms have been sucking on the government tit for too long. Time to pay the piper.
 

vantexan

Well-Known Member
So how are all you folks who predicted Trump was only going to help the 1% feeling now? He's no populist you said. We're all fools, you said. Looks like the rich are still paying the same. And the corporate rate? Will stimulate growth leading to jobs. You can rag on Trump all you like, he's doing more for the working man than you-know-who ever did.
 

Catatonic

Nine Lives
I don’t have a farm, and I’m not sure we should steer tax policy to be favorable for a dozen families.
I don't really care personally.
Anyone whose estate is worth 10 million or more and has not put most of it in trusts deserves to lose it.
Just my opinion with no practical experience in the area.
I paid for both my parents funerals.
 

BrownArmy

Well-Known Member
So how are all you folks who predicted Trump was only going to help the 1% feeling now? He's no populist you said. We're all fools, you said. Looks like the rich are still paying the same. And the corporate rate? Will stimulate growth leading to jobs. You can rag on Trump all you like, he's doing more for the working man than you-know-who ever did.

This ‘tax-reform’ is a massive change all right!

It’s a switcharoo from taxing capitol to taxing labor.

It’s fine if you think that’s fine, but please don’t be a patsy.
 

vantexan

Well-Known Member
This ‘tax-reform’ is a massive change all right!

It’s a switcharoo from taxing capitol to taxing labor.

It’s fine if you think that’s fine, but please don’t be a patsy.
I believe you were one of those who shouted the loudest that Trump was just in it for the 1%. We, the clueless who voted for him, were getting played. What I saw and read today says you were wrong. He has his faults, but I really think he wants to help working class and middle class folks. And I didn't see the previous administration doing so. And if Hillary I-rigged-the-election Clinton was president nothing would have changed.
 

Sportello

Well-Known Member
I believe you were one of those who shouted the loudest that Trump was just in it for the 1%. We, the clueless who voted for him, were getting played. What I saw and read today says you were wrong. He has his faults, but I really think he wants to help working class and middle class folks. And I didn't see the previous administration doing so. And if Hillary I-rigged-the-election Clinton was president nothing would have changed.
You need to work on your reading. You are being played.
 

BrownArmy

Well-Known Member
I believe you were one of those who shouted the loudest that Trump was just in it for the 1%. We, the clueless who voted for him, were getting played. What I saw and read today says you were wrong. He has his faults, but I really think he wants to help working class and middle class folks. And I didn't see the previous administration doing so. And if Hillary I-rigged-the-election Clinton was president nothing would have changed.

I simply disagree.

This ‘tax reform’ ends up screwing the working-man, no matter how P. Ryan et al want to spin it.

You have a little Kool-Aid mustache.
 

BrownArmy

Well-Known Member
How does it screw the working man?

$2,000,000,000,000 in tax breaks for corporations, for starters.

It's a bait and switch for the average Joe.

Hey, we'll double your standard deduction, but we'll pull the rug out from under you in terms of x,y, and z.

Look, any tax reform will produce winners and losers, but, so far, this looks like corporations will win bigly and the working-man will take a hit so that said corporations can get their pound of flesh.

The numbers will be discussed, and that's the thing about numbers: it's math, and no matter how Ryan and Trump want to spin this, this is a transfer of levied monies from labor to capitol.

I hate to say it, but Republicans have been trying to reverse the New Deal since the New Deal. If you aren't rich, you aren't contributing to the economy, and therefore you should die in squalor. It's like a Dickens book.

The fact that you buy the nonsense that this tax 'reform' is pointed toward the middle class, or workers, makes me think you haven't thought this through.

But hey, this isn't the final bill, so both of us are talking out our :censored2:.
 
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