silenze
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Nope. The driver from the new center would follow the work back to the old center.
Routes moving to a new building
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UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
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...or could choose to stay in the new center as a cover driver...
Brownslave688
You want a toe? I can get you a toe.
It's already been answered. Follow your work.
Babagounj
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barnyard
KTM rider
You will have to ask you local shop steward. There is contract language for routes moving and you are going outside of that language.
oldngray
nowhere special
When a new building opened here it allowed limited movement between buildings. Possible but not that easily done. Especially if you are low seniority.
barnyard
KTM rider
We have had routes move to and away from our building. I decided not to follow a route and am very familiar with the language. What the OP is asking about are temp moves and lots of what ifs. These are all questions that the local is going to have to help with.
If it were a permanent move, the route holder will be asked if they are following the route. If not, the route will go up for bid. The winner will have 10 days to decide if they are keeping the route.
In my building, we had 3 routes move to our building. 2 people followed them. 15ish years later, those routes moved back, that time only 1 followed it back. The 2 that left went up for bid and a low seniority guy signed it and kept it. The route that was unsigned was bid in the new center. The guy that won that bid still runs the route.
There are dangers for a low seniority person to follow a route. We had 3 other routes move to a hub. 3 low seniority people followed. The area was relooped and the routes changed enough that everything was rebid. Only 1 person had enough seniority to keep his route, the rest went to cover driving.
If it were a permanent move, the route holder will be asked if they are following the route. If not, the route will go up for bid. The winner will have 10 days to decide if they are keeping the route.
In my building, we had 3 routes move to our building. 2 people followed them. 15ish years later, those routes moved back, that time only 1 followed it back. The 2 that left went up for bid and a low seniority guy signed it and kept it. The route that was unsigned was bid in the new center. The guy that won that bid still runs the route.
There are dangers for a low seniority person to follow a route. We had 3 other routes move to a hub. 3 low seniority people followed. The area was relooped and the routes changed enough that everything was rebid. Only 1 person had enough seniority to keep his route, the rest went to cover driving.
Appvol
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? If the building isn’t going to be open year round. If they move your route to that new building and your route back to the old building you stay on it why wouldn’t UPS have to pay you mileage from the original center to the new building. It sound like the new building isn’t a center. Is the new building not going to have a management team at it year round.
In the Atlantic if you choose not to follow your route you can bump anyone under you.
MECH-lift
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Can those drivers that get bumped; can they then bump anyone under them , and so on?
2 bumps, 3rd driver goes to cover.
Thanks i need to talk to my ba, i think maybe if you dont follow your route you become a cover driver until new bid cycle in our supplement, but i cajt find much info
Which supplement?
Yeah I don't see any change of operations language there so unless you have an established past practice the default is the language in the Master which effectively means you'll be cover until the next bid.
“
OpeningandClosingofCenters–Wheneveracenterisopened or closed or partially closed, the Local Unions involved and the Company will determine the number of jobs to be transferred. The employees affected will be entitled to follow the work. If the num- ber of employees pre-determined to move has not been reached, the remaining employees in the center or classification in the building will be offered the work in seniority order.
Temporary Cover Drivers will be permitted to move to fill any package car jobs not filled by package car drivers in the building from which the work was moved.
All part time and full time employees who transfer will have their seniority dovetailed.
In the event no employee elects to follow the work and it becomes necessary to reduce the work force, the least senior of the employ-
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ees shall be laid off first and they shall not be permitted to displace part time employees.
All Changes of Operations will be reduced to writing and forward- ed to the Joint National Change of Operations Committee.
If any of the parties cannot agree on a Change of Operations, they shall contact the Joint National Change of Operations Committee. A Change of Operations Committee will be established in each Re- gional Area to resolve any disputes.
(c) All employees who elect to follow the work will have the one- time right to return to their original Center to fill new permanent jobs or vacancies within three (3) years of the date of such transfer and their seniority shall be dovetailed.”
Ah missed that section. Yeah that's pretty vague though. Good luck hope your BA has a better answer for ya.
Yeet
Not gonna let ‘em catch the Midnight Rider
Not here. Bump and roll all the way down. If a driver chooses to bump down to VC, the bump and roll stops.
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