seniority question

Discussion in 'UPS Union Issues' started by bjork, Jun 9, 2015.

  1. bjork

    bjork New Member

    I think I already know the answer but would like to double check.

    Let's say someone is double shifting and has higher seniority than you. Technically, don't you have the "power" to not let them take your job duty since they are double shifting. (example: working upstairs with irregs).
  2. Dr.Brownz

    Dr.Brownz Well-Known Member

    I think in some locals they say all pters have to be working to double shift? I'm not sure but that was how it was when I worked part time. So if there are other part timers laid off while double shifting is happening it might be a violation. Talk to stew
  3. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    Anyone who is double shifting should not be able to displace an employee on the additional shift regardless of seniority.

    No PTer should be allowed to double shift if there are any PTers not working.
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  4. barnyard

    barnyard KTM rider Staff Member

    More than likely, if it is not covered in the NMA or your local supplement, it will be covered by past practices.
  5. greengrenades

    greengrenades To be the man, you gotta beat the man.

    I'm not exactly sure on this one, but I would imagine if you come in and someone is double shifting and they try to send you home, I would imagine there has to be something against that. Especially since you are guaranteed 3 1/2 hours. If you agree to go home then you won't get it but if they force you then you will get the pay. Ask your union steward.
  6. box_beeyotch

    box_beeyotch Well-Known Member

    If a full time driver is laid off, they have the right to bump the least seniority part timer to double shift and get their 8. Not sure about part timers double shifting but I would think they cant use someone to double shift if their sending other part timers home.
  7. PT Car Washer

    PT Car Washer Well-Known Member

    UPS will use PT sups and pay the grievance if they get caught.
  8. box_beeyotch

    box_beeyotch Well-Known Member

    They will. Has this problem as a local sorter until I started filing every day as well as other people filing also.
  9. DriveInDriveOut

    DriveInDriveOut This Is The Last Stop

    Are you talking about being sent home, or just being bumped from your usual irreg job to something else?
    If it's the latter, did you get your irreg position by a p/t classification bid, or just get put there? If you didn't sign a bid for the preferred job they can put you wherever they want. Check with your steward if it really matters to you.
  10. PiedmontSteward

    PiedmontSteward RTW-4-Less

    Double shifting employees shall have seniority amongst themselves.

    I work in a preferred job and if we "over staff" with doubles, the doubles get to go to the inbound/outbound. Same thing happens quite a bit when I work doubles on the Midnight sort.
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  11. BigUnionGuy

    BigUnionGuy Got the T-Shirt


    Double shifting employees can't displace someone, working their normal shift.

    Regardless.... of seniority.

  12. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    ...nor can they work before any laid off employees...
  13. BigUnionGuy

    BigUnionGuy Got the T-Shirt


    Unless, it was an "act of God".

    And the company.... has to meet a "reasonable" threshold, to achieve that.