Sept 8th Presidental Address to children across America

Catatonic

Nine Lives
Funny, it was reported that teddy K read to school children on a regular schedule and everyone said that was a good thing, but Bush did it and it was a national disgrace. So explain to me how come a drunken killer is better at reading to children ?

Which one are you referring to?
 

Babagounj

Strength through joy
All the hoopla is pretty ridiculous, all he's going to do is tell the kids to stay in school and work hard. 10 years from now I doubt many of them will remember exactly what he said, but they will remember that the president took time out his day to talk to them about the importance of education, and that's not a bad thing.
just another tactic to avoid the crushing defeat of his health care bill.
 

wkmac

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tieguy

Banned
You won't let your kids listen to the President of the US address school children, yet as you agressively pick them up from school, you'll indoctrinate them to hate filled conservative talk radio on your vehicle's AM dial....lol..

there is absolutely nothing more hate filled then the lunatics on msnbc.
 

tieguy

Banned
We all know George couldn't put two sentences together, yet nobody gave a rat's a s s he visited classrooms(as long as he didn't teach grammer)...now, because of all these spiteful sore loser conservatives Obama's handlers are putting out the content a day before he speaks to school children. That will give the conservative spin doctors 24hrs of mfg'ed subliminal messages....This ought to be entertaining. Sad thing is, many blind follwers view the spin doctors as the word of god....

Instead of the president we should broadcast the teleprompter and cut out the middle man.
 

tieguy

Banned
All the hoopla is pretty ridiculous, all he's going to do is tell the kids to stay in school and work hard. 10 years from now I doubt many of them will remember exactly what he said, but they will remember that the president took time out his day to talk to them about the importance of education, and that's not a bad thing.

I agree he probably should do so and might. He should at least produce a copy of his speech prior to it so parents can review it and decide whether they will let him speak to their child. Its a right and courtesy parents should have.
 

brett636

Well-Known Member
Pulling your kid out school for an entire day just to protect him/her from hearing the president say that education is important is just bat-chit crazy. But yeah, to each his own :happy-very:

There is no promise that he will stick to just education. If he stays on the education subject I personally have no issue with it, but if he starts on a political rant with the kids then I have a problem with it. That is what most people are afraid of.
 

island1fox

Well-Known Member
:sad-little:During the Presidential debates --Obama made it very clear to Hillary that He was "VERY" interested in the successful charter school in D.C. for minorities and knew the woman who ran the school very well.
After he was elected {certainly not due to union pressure for all the money they contributed:sad-little:} He immediately cut funding for the successful school-sending the poor children back into the failing public system and then immediately enrolled his daughter's into a very white,rich private school that most Americans cannot afford!!!!

It reminds me of a few years back when then Teachers union President Albert Schanker stated that he would be interested in children and their education ---only after they started paying union dues.

Because of Union Pressure --a strong LOBBY --our schools are failing. They continue to rant about smaller class size and more[DUES PAYING} teachers. Anyone with a little COMMON SENSE would realize that not only are the children of today COMPUTER LITERATE -they are motivated and inspired by technology.
With computer based training --the great TEACHERS could be paid alot more and the computer classes could be monitered by people who claim they cannot find jobs and receive a decent salary and benefit package.
Of course a plan like this makes TOO MUCH sense---and because of special interests groups the education system and the children will continue to suffer. CBT TRAINING --NOT THE FUTURE --NOW !!!:wink2:
 

klein

Für Meno :)
Klein is a German Socialist living in Canada ... he doesn't understand the American Experience. Bless his heart.

hah, I don't even vote liberal. But, even conservatives bring in social programs, just like the rest of the Western Countries.
Canada is far less social then Europe.

But, ofcourse I do catch American news here, probably from a whole different , neutral prospective, then those watching fox.

Us, western countries, (europe and Canada), realize you can't have a heathly econonmy with a huge amount of poverty (USA must have the highest rate of poverty and child poverty, per capita, among the industrialized countries).

And , if there is a social net, to get these people productive again. There is nothing wrong with that.

And I find it very intrugend that some of you won't allow thier children to watch Obama (the leader of thier country to speak to them).
When they are grown up, they won't be able to vote for him anyways.
It would be like telling canadian kids they can't go see the queen when she comes to visit.
 

brett636

Well-Known Member
hah, I don't even vote liberal. But, even conservatives bring in social programs, just like the rest of the Western Countries.
Canada is far less social then Europe.

But, ofcourse I do catch American news here, probably from a whole different , neutral prospective, then those watching fox.

Us, western countries, (europe and Canada), realize you can't have a heathly econonmy with a huge amount of poverty (USA must have the highest rate of poverty and child poverty, per capita, among the industrialized countries).

And , if there is a social net, to get these people productive again. There is nothing wrong with that.

And I find it very intrugend that some of you won't allow thier children to watch Obama (the leader of thier country to speak to them).
When they are grown up, they won't be able to vote for him anyways.
It would be like telling canadian kids they can't go see the queen when she comes to visit.

There is a difference. The queen is the head of state and is not a political leader. The queen is merely someone who represents the UK to other nations. Obama is the head of the government which is different. He is a political leader who makes politically biased decisions, and some people's fear is that he is going to make a political speech to their children when they believe it is their responsibility to endow their children with their political beliefs. As it should be since they are not the President's kids.

Our President is more akin to a Prime Minister than a king/queen of England.
 

klein

Für Meno :)
There is a difference. The queen is the head of state and is not a political leader. The queen is merely someone who represents the UK to other nations. Obama is the head of the government which is different. He is a political leader who makes politically biased decisions, and some people's fear is that he is going to make a political speech to their children when they believe it is their responsibility to endow their children with their political beliefs. As it should be since they are not the President's kids.

Our President is more akin to a Prime Minister than a king/queen of England.

But your president can't be ousted/fired by the Queen. Ours can.
Not, that it'll ever happen. But she does have that power.
Gorbatshov once held a speech at the Calgary Bowness Highschool back in 1991.
I was there, have old pics to prove it.
Personally, I think kids should be a bit more involved in politics.
Seems, they are the ones hardly voting (ages 18-25).

Guess, other posters are right. Up to you, if you don't trust your president and don't want him near your children or speaking to them.
Each to thier own. Personally, I wouldn't want my kids to miss that opportunity.
He is basically the mightiest person on earth today.
 

brett636

Well-Known Member
But your president can't be ousted/fired by the Queen. Ours can.
Not, that it'll ever happen. But she does have that power.

Thats due to the differences between our different systems of government. We do not have a royal family that sits above our President like you do with your Prime Minister. The queen can also veto legislation passed by the parliament, but has not done so since the 1700s. The queen and our President are vastly different figures with different responsibilities. Thats all I was trying to point out is that your analogy is comparing apples to oranges.



Guess, other posters are right. Up to you, if you don't trust your president and don't want him near your children or speaking to them.
Each to thier own. Personally, I wouldn't want my kids to miss that opportunity.
He is basically the mightiest person on earth today.
You would allow your kids to watch it mainly because your political ideals fall in line with that of Obama's. If he goes into a political tirade attempting to indoctrinate your kids you would have no problem with that because both of you are far left loons. Those who would rather their kids get their political information from them(meaning parents) rather than from someone on the opposite end of the political spectrum have every right to object to this speech.
 

klein

Für Meno :)
You would allow your kids to watch it mainly because your political ideals fall in line with that of Obama's. If he goes into a political tirade attempting to indoctrinate your kids you would have no problem with that because both of you are far left loons. Those who would rather their kids get their political information from them(meaning parents) rather than from someone on the opposite end of the political spectrum have every right to object to this speech.

Thats soo not true.
Wouldn't matter to me if it was Bush, Clinton, Reagan, or any other president.
And children should learn from thier own research, who later they want to vote for.
Besides, if someone is very democratic, and openminded. They don't vote for soley Liberal or Republican.
They chose every 4 years, for whom would do the best job.
 

brett636

Well-Known Member
Thats soo not true.
Wouldn't matter to me if it was Bush, Clinton, Reagan, or any other president.
And children should learn from thier own research, who later they want to vote for.
Besides, if someone is very democratic, and openminded. They don't vote for soley Liberal or Republican.
They chose every 4 years, for whom would do the best job.

Bush Sr. was the last President to make a statement directly to the children of the U.S. His message was basically a "don't do drugs" message, and if Obama sticks with a "Stay in school and work hard" message I have no issue with that. Although some of the assignments that the department of education has released to go along with the President's message include having the kids write about what they can do to help the President, and my question is help the President do what? Pass healthcare legislation? Pester their parents to drive hybrid cars? Or just stay in school? The unknown is where people have a problem, and I can't blame some parents for not wanting their children exposed to a message that they cannot preview before hand.
 

moreluck

golden ticket member
The biggest thing to worry about is any radical teachers out there who might go overboard with the assignment.

If it was me, I'd pull my kid out for that day and get our flags all ready to put out for Labor day and for a 9-11 rememberance.....and maybe visit a museum featuring WWII.
 

klein

Für Meno :)
The biggest thing to worry about is any radical teachers out there who might go overboard with the assignment.

If it was me, I'd pull my kid out for that day and get our flags all ready to put out for Labor day and for a 9-11 rememberance.....and maybe visit a museum featuring WWII.

Yeah, might be as radical as pollution control that I had in 5th grade.
Oh your kids may want to recycle, like we should.
Or like Brett mentioned, be more fuel efficient.

Would be soo awesome bad if America would be self-effecient, like they once were up to the 1950's or so.

Had no dependency on imports, including oil.
For the past years now, just producing trade deficits.

I just hope one of these kids will come up with new ideas, to get America working as a whole , again.
 
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