Should I file a grievance?

Rock0

Member
I searched the forum to see if someone had a similar issue to mine and I didn't come across any, my situation is a bit unique and seeing if I should file grievance and more importantly, what good could come out of it. I was a RTD driver for seasonal , I mostly just shuttled and delivered air... I only did ground about 4 days throughout the holiday season. One guy in front of me did ground daily and qualified. He claimed he had more seniority over me and one of the supervisors confirmed this. The list just went up for FT drivers and I find out that I have seniority over him. I understand that this is partly my fault for not being aware of this... we have the same hire date & all.... he just lied to me and I took his word after a sup thought the same thing... I dropped the ball there. Now, I will be hired FT and have a lower pay-rate then him since I didn't qualify (not given the chance) and also lost out on much income throughout the holiday. So, my questions are 1) Can I file a grievance? 2)Should I file one? 3) What good could come out of it? 4) Couldn't this hurt me when it comes to qualifying if I piss off the supervisors?

Edit: Not sure if it is worth noting but I also thought it was weird that they brought in drivers from another state because of the volume we have had....they are still here
 

scooby0048

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I searched the forum to see if someone had a similar issue to mine and I didn't come across any, my situation is a bit unique and seeing if I should file grievance and more importantly, what good could come out of it. I was a RTD driver for seasonal , I mostly just shuttled and delivered air... I only did ground about 4 days throughout the holiday season. One guy in front of me did ground daily and qualified. He claimed he had more seniority over me and one of the supervisors confirmed this. The list just went up for FT drivers and I find out that I have seniority over him. I understand that this is partly my fault for not being aware of this... we have the same hire date & all.... he just lied to me and I took his word after a sup thought the same thing... I dropped the ball there. Now, I will be hired FT and have a lower pay-rate then him since I didn't qualify (not given the chance) and also lost out on much income throughout the holiday. So, my questions are 1) Can I file a grievance? 2)Should I file one? 3) What good could come out of it? 4) Couldn't this hurt me when it comes to qualifying if I piss off the supervisors?

Edit: Not sure if it is worth noting but I also thought it was weird that they brought in drivers from another state because of the volume we have had....they are still here

You only need to ask once. You won't get better or faster answers multi-posting.
 
I searched the forum to see if someone had a similar issue to mine and I didn't come across any, my situation is a bit unique and seeing if I should file grievance and more importantly, what good could come out of it. I was a RTD driver for seasonal , I mostly just shuttled and delivered air... I only did ground about 4 days throughout the holiday season. One guy in front of me did ground daily and qualified. He claimed he had more seniority over me and one of the supervisors confirmed this. The list just went up for FT drivers and I find out that I have seniority over him. I understand that this is partly my fault for not being aware of this... we have the same hire date & all.... he just lied to me and I took his word after a sup thought the same thing... I dropped the ball there. Now, I will be hired FT and have a lower pay-rate then him since I didn't qualify (not given the chance) and also lost out on much income throughout the holiday. So, my questions are 1) Can I file a grievance? 2)Should I file one? 3) What good could come out of it? 4) Couldn't this hurt me when it comes to qualifying if I piss off the supervisors?

Edit: Not sure if it is worth noting but I also thought it was weird that they brought in drivers from another state because of the volume we have had....they are still here
You have a week to be a grievance from the date of the infraction.
 

silenze

Lunch is the best part of the day
You should talk to your business agent. There are no time limits on Seniority violation grievances.
 

burrheadd

KING Of GIFS
I searched the forum to see if someone had a similar issue to mine and I didn't come across any, my situation is a bit unique and seeing if I should file grievance and more importantly, what good could come out of it. I was a RTD driver for seasonal , I mostly just shuttled and delivered air... I only did ground about 4 days throughout the holiday season. One guy in front of me did ground daily and qualified. He claimed he had more seniority over me and one of the supervisors confirmed this. The list just went up for FT drivers and I find out that I have seniority over him. I understand that this is partly my fault for not being aware of this... we have the same hire date & all.... he just lied to me and I took his word after a sup thought the same thing... I dropped the ball there. Now, I will be hired FT and have a lower pay-rate then him since I didn't qualify (not given the chance) and also lost out on much income throughout the holiday. So, my questions are 1) Can I file a grievance? 2)Should I file one? 3) What good could come out of it? 4) Couldn't this hurt me when it comes to qualifying if I piss off the supervisors?

Edit: Not sure if it is worth noting but I also thought it was weird that they brought in drivers from another state because of the volume we have had....they are still here
Moral of this story

Pay attention and don’t drop the ball
 

Rack em

First to worst!
You have a week to be a grievance from the date of the infraction.
I thought it was 5 days for us to file and 10 days for management to discipline?

Btw that's bull:censored2: management gets twice as long to screw us over if they choose to!
 

brown_trousers

Well-Known Member
It's a week here to file or I guess technically it would be 5 working days.
Is that 5 days from the day of infraction, or 5 days from the day you discover it?

Seems like UPS could easily hide a seniority discrepancy like this for 5 days without anyone finding out. When does the 5 day countdown begin?
 
Al
Is that 5 days from the day of infraction, or 5 days from the day you discover it?

Seems like UPS could easily hide a seniority discrepancy like this for 5 days without anyone finding out. When does the 5 day countdown begin?
Apparently I didn't know about the no time limit on a seniority infraction.next time I talk to my BA I will ask him about it.
 

Rock0

Member
Well, in this case... they are still sending out the guy who I have seniority over everyday so the infraction is still taking place....so, what would you guys do if you were in my shoes? What good would come out of me filing a grievance? I don't know if it is worth it since I just made the F/T list today.
 
Well, in this case... they are still sending out the guy who I have seniority over everyday so the infraction is still taking place....so, what would you guys do if you were in my shoes? What good would come out of me filing a grievance? I don't know if it is worth it since I just made the F/T list today.
You need to talk to your BA. Could be the difference of you sitting at home when times or slow, could keep you from bidding a route. Could also mess up your full time pension by not having that money paid in your behalf.
 

von kaiser

Knock, drop, and roll
I searched the forum to see if someone had a similar issue to mine and I didn't come across any, my situation is a bit unique and seeing if I should file grievance and more importantly, what good could come out of it. I was a RTD driver for seasonal , I mostly just shuttled and delivered air... I only did ground about 4 days throughout the holiday season. One guy in front of me did ground daily and qualified. He claimed he had more seniority over me and one of the supervisors confirmed this. The list just went up for FT drivers and I find out that I have seniority over him. I understand that this is partly my fault for not being aware of this... we have the same hire date & all.... he just lied to me and I took his word after a sup thought the same thing... I dropped the ball there. Now, I will be hired FT and have a lower pay-rate then him since I didn't qualify (not given the chance) and also lost out on much income throughout the holiday. So, my questions are 1) Can I file a grievance? 2)Should I file one? 3) What good could come out of it? 4) Couldn't this hurt me when it comes to qualifying if I piss off the supervisors?

Edit: Not sure if it is worth noting but I also thought it was weird that they brought in drivers from another state because of the volume we have had....they are still here
I didn’t even read this.

The answer is yes.
 

542thruNthru

Well-Known Member
I thought it was 5 days for us to file and 10 days for management to discipline?

Btw that's bull:censored2: management gets twice as long to screw us over if they choose to!
It's a week here to file or I guess technically it would be 5 working days.
You guys only get 5 days to file a grievance? That's ridiculous! We get 30 days here and the company only gets 10 to discipline us. I sure hope you guys remember that come next contract if you didn't do it this one. Because that sounds like a great proposal to add to your Rider.
 
You guys only get 5 days to file a grievance? That's ridiculous! We get 30 days here and the company only gets 10 to discipline us. I sure hope you guys remember that come next contract if you didn't do it this one. Because that sounds like a great proposal to add to your Rider.
So many other issues that need addressed, it's not even funny.
 
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