Should management who do nothing when they observe unsafe acts be disciplined?

[Turdferguson]

I'll own my own shortcomings and mistakes. I won't own another adult's who made a conscious decision to ignore my feedback.

Part of being management. Take the good with the bad. You will own my mistakes and like it

 

[Integrity]

Any union member that sees someone doing something unsafe should be punished. I could care less about management their idiots. Union people should say something and show someone how to be safe.

Jkloc420,

I disagree.

Union people are responsible for doing the job as trained, not overseeing fellow union workers.

Union people should look out for each other but discipline is the responsiblily of management.

Sincerely,
I

 

[Integrity]

It's funny because I can walk around all day and point out safety issues to hourlies and get blown off like I'm full of crap. I'll tell you, but if you choose to ignore it the injury is on you, not me

FrigidFTSup,

The purpose of progressive discipline is to correct behavior.

Are you applying correct progressive discipline to these situations where your get "blown" off as you put it?

If you choose to ignore getting "blown off" by your subordinates then the injury is on you not them?

Sincerely,
I

 

[Integrity]

UPS doesn't give a wet pile of dog turds about your safety unless they have to pay for something...tell them you might not have enough room in your truck for pickups they'll have two more trucks there in 38 seconds and message you off the hook...tell them you have heat stroke and you won't hear back from them

dookie stain,

Unfair generalization.

Sincerely,
I

 

[Integrity]

My job isn't to hold hands. I'll gladly offer constructive criticism. If you want to ignore it that is all you.

FrigidFTSup,

Progressive discipline needed.

Not constructive criticism.

Sincerely,
I

 

[dookie stain]

dookie stain,

Unfair generalization.

Sincerely,
I

Sorry dad

 

[wayfair]

You didn't try hard enough, fault is with you.
Own it suit

come on man, listen to the 23 year old....

he's your supe for God's sake...

 

[Jkloc420]

Jkloc420,

I disagree.

Union people are responsible for doing the job as trained, not overseeing fellow union workers.

Union people should look out for each other but discipline is the responsiblily of management.

Sincerely,
I

No union people can't discipline people. That isn't their job. However if they see someone doing something unsafe they should stop them. For example picking up overweights by themselves, shoes untied etc.. I don't know about you but I don't want to see anyone I know get hurt for this company. So saying something to someone who isn't doing something right should be done. Even telling them what the contracts say in regards to certain things.

 

[ArcherUTR]

Yes, management is responsibility for safety. If management continually allows employees to work unsafely, they should be fired.

If someone continually chooses to work unsafely, they should be fired.

 

[FrigidFTSup]

FrigidFTSup,

The purpose of progressive discipline is to correct behavior.

Are you applying correct progressive discipline to these situations where your get "blown" off as you put it?

If you choose to ignore getting "blown off" by your subordinates then the injury is on you not them?

Sincerely,
I

FrigidFTSup,

Progressive discipline needed.

Not constructive criticism.

Sincerely,
I

Integrity,

I do utilize progressive discipline.

But I can't watch 40 guys at once.

I'm not a robot.

Sincerely,
friend

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

Integrity,

I do utilize progressive discipline.

But I can't watch 40 guys at once.

I'm not a robot.

Sincerely,
friend

Maybe if you wasn't so busy posting...

 

[wayfair]

Maybe if you wasn't so busy posting...

I didn't think there were 40 people at his building

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

I didn't think there were 40 people at his building

He meant 4.

 

[Integrity]

Integrity,

I do utilize progressive discipline.

But I can't watch 40 guys at once.

I'm not a robot.

Sincerely,
friend

friend,

If you are using progressive discipline then why the problem with employees ignoring your directions on safe work practices?

Sincerely,
I

 

[Brownslave688]

Fail

 

[El Correcto]

I wish the union was allowed to observe once a year like management. Found out why drivers are bonusing.

 

[Brownslave688]

I wish the union was allowed to observe once a year like management. Found out why drivers are bonusing.

Who cares?


I'll worry about me.

 

[Integrity]

Fail

Brownslave688,

?

Sincerely,
I

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

Brownslave688,

?

Sincerely,
I

I agree with @Brownslave688

 

[Integrity]

Who cares?


I'll worry about me.

Brownslave688,

Isn't that a selfish attitude?

Sincerely,
I