Sign up sheet posted. Sign to get paid a full 8hrs on xmas eve

[Nazzrath]

So my center management posted a sign up sheet at our turn in counter. It reads something like this 'We're trying to get drivers off the road by 5:15pm on Xmas eve. You will be paid for 'time worked' (approx 7.2hrs). If you want to work 8 hours, sign below.' It seems to me they're side stepping our contract which guarantees us 8 hours paid. Are they in violation of our contract?

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[Anonymous 10]

Yes & no

 

[Jones]

Sounds like they want to try and send folks out with less than 8 hours plans so everyone can get home early on xmas eve.
Go ahead and grieve it though maybe you can get them to cut routes, lay off the junior drivers, and send everyone else out with one last 12 hour day.
You just can't do some people a favor.

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

How are they violating the contract? They are asking drivers if they want their guarantee or if they want to work Code 05. If you want your 8 then sign the list---if you want to get home to your families then don't sign the list. I'm sure that they are tired and also want to get home to their families.

How many of you are planning on taking the 26th off and/or working on the 31st? I am taking the 26th off (they are only running 12 routes) and working the 31st (easy money). Yes, the 26th would be a "dead day" but I need a break and can make up part of that money on the 31st.

 

[The Blackadder]

Would rather be home as early as I can to be with my family. Money is not the end all be all.

 

[brownmonster]

How are they violating the contract? They are asking drivers if they want their guarantee or if they want to work Code 05. If you want your 8 then sign the list---if you want to get home to your families then don't sign the list. I'm sure that they are tired and also want to get home to their families.

How many of you are planning on taking the 26th off and/or working on the 31st? I am taking the 26th off (they are only running 12 routes) and working the 31st (easy money). Yes, the 26th would be a "dead day" but I need a break and can make up part of that money on the 31st.

You old guys and your dead days. I have to use an optional day to try and get the 26th off. Denied so far.

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

You old guys and your dead days. I have to use an optional day to try and get the 26th off. Denied so far.

We have 12 routes planned for that day---this old guy will not be working.

 

[packageguy]

So my center management posted a sign up sheet at our turn in counter. It reads something like this 'We're trying to get drivers off the road by 5:15pm on Xmas eve. You will be paid for 'time worked' (approx 7.2hrs). If you want to work 8 hours, sign below.' It seems to me they're side stepping our contract which guarantees us 8 hours paid. Are they in violation of our contract?

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BAH HUMBUG

It's called code 5, hours worked, Go home and enjoy your family

 

[Jackburton]

I'll work both with 8hr guarantee, option 3 days reset after the first, that's when I'll take a break.

 

[cosmo1]

Sounds like they want to try and send folks out with less than 8 hours plans so everyone can get home early on xmas eve.
Go ahead and grieve it though maybe you can get them to cut routes, lay off the junior drivers, and send everyone else out with one last 12 hour day.
You just can't do some people a favor.

Up until about 15 years ago, management kept all routes in and helpers on for Christmas Eve. Then some dork in another center in the local complained about not getting his eight hours. I still wish I knew who he was.

 

[cosmo1]

.....I am taking the 26th off (they are only running 12 routes) and working the 31st (easy money). Yes, the 26th would be a "dead day" but I need a break and can make up part of that money on the 31st.

Yet here, in the bubble-of-not-quite-goodness, I (senior driver in the building and definitely an old guy) am the only driver guaranteed the day off.

 

[Dracula]

Up until about 15 years ago, management kept all routes in and helpers on for Christmas Eve. Then some dork in another center in the local complained about not getting his eight hours. I still wish I knew who he was.

If you really think one guy is/was the reason does anything, then you've been sold a bill of goods. UPS will ALWAYS do what is best for them, not because they lost a grievance. Our whole contract is proof of that.

 

[cosmo1]

If you really think one guy is/was the reason does anything, then you've been sold a bill of goods. UPS will ALWAYS do what is best for them, not because they lost a grievance. Our whole contract is proof of that.

No, nobody in our local complained about code 5 on Christmas Eve until this guy bitched. Everybody wanted a piece of his a.

 

[Catatonic]

If you really think one guy is/was the reason does anything, then you've been sold a bill of goods. UPS will ALWAYS do what is best for them, not because they lost a grievance. Our whole contract is proof of that.

UPS could not care less as long as cost is contained.
Local management is trying to do something that is desired by all employees (management and Union).
One jerk screwed it up for everybody.
Sometimes it can be a win-win situation.

 

[cino321]

Keep in mind in some supplements code 5 means they don't make contributions to pension & welfare funds.

 

[Cementups]

Up until about 15 years ago, management kept all routes in and helpers on for Christmas Eve. Then some dork in another center in the local complained about not getting his eight hours. I still wish I knew who he was.

I will still have my helper on 12/24 but most certainly will not be working 8 hours. At least I hope not.

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

I will still have my helper on 12/24 but most certainly will not be working 8 hours. At least I hope not.

I will also have my helper and plan on buying him lunch. He has busted his ass and has definitely earned it.

 

[bottomups]

How are they violating the contract? They are asking drivers if they want their guarantee or if they want to work Code 05. If you want your 8 then sign the list---if you want to get home to your families then don't sign the list. I'm sure that they are tired and also want to get home to their families.

How many of you are planning on taking the 26th off and/or working on the 31st? I am taking the 26th off (they are only running 12 routes) and working the 31st (easy money). Yes, the 26th would be a "dead day" but I need a break and can make up part of that money on the 31st.

You had guaranteed pay on your last paycheck during peak and you still need a break?

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

They beat you up all year and they want to screw you out of 45 minutes of pay!!!!Tell them you want 8 hours if they give you a hard time CALL 1800-SICKDAY...Thats always good for 8hrs. pay