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zubenelgenubi

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I do find Nazi Germany one the crazier parts of history. People who want to take power away from the government wouldn’t really be Nazis though.

It always cracks me up when small government people are called nazi's. The name is literally translated as national socialist. Not all statists are Nazi's, but all Nazi's are statists.
 

refineryworker05

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The one great thing about trump is that he reveals that republicans don't really believe what they discuss, they don't care at all.

Evangelicals support a three time married man who cheats on all his wives and has probably paid for abortions.

Law and order republicans support a man who attacks the fbi and pardons criminals.

The fiscal conservatives support a man whose tax cuts are increasing budget deficits and national debt.

The free market conservatives support a man who is against free trade, who attacks and rewards companies based on how they treat him personally.

The we love the military conservatives back a man who has attacked 2 gold star families, attacked all POW's, and has never visited troops in the field.

Finally, these people who insist that we only "hire" the best regardless of race or gender supports trump a buffoonish unqualified person to be president who says dumb stuff like we need a space force.
 

zubenelgenubi

I'm a star
The one great thing about trump is that he reveals that republicans don't really believe what they discuss, they don't care at all.

Evangelicals support a three time married man who cheats on all his wives and has probably paid for abortions.

Law and order republicans support a man who attacks the fbi and pardons criminals.

The fiscal conservatives support a man whose tax cuts are increasing budget deficits and national debt.

The free market conservatives support a man who is against free trade, who attacks and rewards companies based on how they treat him personally.

The we love the military conservatives back a man who has attacked 2 gold star families, attacked all POW's, and has never visited troops in the field.

Finally, these people who insist that we only "hire" the best regardless of race or gender supports trump a buffoonish unqualified person to be president who says dumb stuff like we need a space force.

I'm not sure what's worse, a hypocritical conservative, or a sincere liberal. The things liberals hate Trump for, they love their politicians for. Trump appeals, to more than just republicans, because he promised something different. All this hate pouring out from butt-hurt democrats simply help to reinforce to Trump supporters that Trump is delivering. If you want to end Trump's presidential career, you should embrace him and out him as a democrat as he has been his whole life. But once you do that, then everything Trump's done that you hate, you'll have to love.
 

refineryworker05

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I'm not sure what's worse, a hypocritical conservative, or a sincere liberal. The things liberals hate Trump for, they love their politicians for. Trump appeals, to more than just republicans, because he promised something different. All this hate pouring out from butt-hurt democrats simply help to reinforce to Trump supporters that Trump is delivering. If you want to end Trump's presidential career, you should embrace him and out him as a democrat as he has been his whole life. But once you do that, then everything Trump's done that you hate, you'll have to love.

This makes no sense at all. My point is that republicans don't believe in the stuff that they discuss because they support trump, and your post is prove trump is a democrat to defeat him. LOL
 

floridays

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The one great thing about trump is that he reveals that republicans don't really believe what they discuss, they don't care at all.

Evangelicals support a three time married man who cheats on all his wives and has probably paid for abortions.

Law and order republicans support a man who attacks the fbi and pardons criminals.

The fiscal conservatives support a man whose tax cuts are increasing budget deficits and national debt.

The free market conservatives support a man who is against free trade, who attacks and rewards companies based on how they treat him personally.

The we love the military conservatives back a man who has attacked 2 gold star families, attacked all POW's, and has never visited troops in the field.

Finally, these people who insist that we only "hire" the best regardless of race or gender supports trump a buffoonish unqualified person to be president who says dumb stuff like we need a space force.
And he still wipes Bathhouse Barry off of Americas shoes each day.
 

newfie

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The one great thing about pelosi is that she reveals that democrats don't really believe what they discuss, they don't care at all.
womans rights activists supported a married man who cheats on his wife and raped his staff and engaged in predatory sex practices at work
Law and order democrats supported a woman who attacks the FBI while violating our national security laws
The fiscal conservative democrats doubled our national debt in 8 years
The free market democrats support a the policy that allows other countries to impose tariffs on our goods and screw us at will
The we love the military democrats who looked the other way when the Obama administration put our people at risk unprotected and let them die
don't forget the human rights democrats who have kept people of color locked up in urban blight .

fixed it for you
 

newfie

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This makes no sense at all. My point is that republicans don't believe in the stuff that they discuss because they support trump, and your post is prove trump is a democrat to defeat him. LOL

your point is that democrats and republicans don't believe in the stuff they claim to stand for but republicans are the ones you want to slam.
 

newfie

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This kind of response is so immature and pointless.

Its this version of "I know you are or they are, but what am I or we".

It is irrational.

whats immature is your belief that you can come here and slam one side and ignore the fact the other side does as much or worse.

cant take the heat go get a job and leave this nonsense on your own job related web site.
 

Serf

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A space force is either a clever way to start recruiting an entire generation of Star Wars Nerds to enlist or its a way to ensure that nobody finds out the Earth is flat and the US never actually landed on the moon.
 

refineryworker05

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your point is that democrats and republicans don't believe in the stuff they claim to stand for but republicans are the ones you want to slam.
No that’s not my point.

I actually think core democratic constituents are transactional in relation to the Democratic Party.

So for example one core of the Democratic Party are black Americans.

black American democratic voters really do believe that racism is a massive problem in American society. They really do believe that economic, educational, and residential opportunities are much poorer for black Americans, they really do believe that the criminal justice system is unfair to black Americans, etc.

They want the federal, local state governments to address those issues, they vote for Democrats cause they have policy ideas about those issues they support.

You can basically do that same thing with most of the democratic constituents, they want their particular group issues addressed that they think are directly impacting their lives for the worse. So of course they believe that stuff.
The vast majority of democratic voters do not identify as ideological liberal.
Their political concerns aren’t driven by this broad ideology that guides how they view all other political issues.

republican voters who broadly identify as conservatives on the other hand do claim to have this philosophical ideological belief system that guides how they view all political issues.

trump has exposed that all to be a huge fraud.
republicans don’t care about the conservative agenda at all.
republican voters couldn’t tell you what trump believes on any issue outside of hating Muslims, South American immigrants, and black people from crap hole nations, and they don’t care.

That’s my point.

The two parties are not mirror images of one another.

The Democratic Party is much more diverse, and has a wider set of disagreements within the party. My dad votes for Democrats, but he doesn’t care about lgbt rights or gay marriage, he doesn’t care about feminist issues, etc. I know many unionmembers who vote for democratic candidates, but they don’t support democrats focusing on fighting racism or housing and school segregation. This means getting democrats on the same page is very very difficult.

republicans are much more homogenous. The Republican Party is mostly older and bwhite Americans. That’s like 90% of the Party, and they have much narrower disagreements, they tend to care about the same issues, so messaging amongst republicans is very strong. Getting them on the same page is relatively easy.
 

refineryworker05

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whats immature is your belief that you can come here and slam one side and ignore the fact the other side does as much or worse.

cant take the heat go get a job and leave this nonsense on your own job related web site.


You think this is a sides thing. I don’t care about the Democratic Party. Not really. But republican voters are far worse. Far far worse. I wish that weren’t the case, but republican voters hate, dislike, fear, huge numbers of the fellow Americans.

the core of that ideology is why they support open bigotry and horrible policies. many republicans want to hurt their fellow Americans and truly don’t want the federal government to aid those Americans as they see them as lazy and undeserving whom they don’t see as real Americans and whom they fear will change American society. It is what’s truly wrong with American politics.

Like trump literally got help from the fbi and a foreign government to get elected. He is truly corrupt. And yet to those voters it doesn’t matter.
 

vantexan

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No that’s not my point.

I actually think core democratic constituents are transactional in relation to the Democratic Party.

So for example one core of the Democratic Party are black Americans.

black American democratic voters really do believe that racism is a massive problem in American society. They really do believe that economic, educational, and residential opportunities are much poorer for black Americans, they really do believe that the criminal justice system is unfair to black Americans, etc.

They want the federal, local state governments to address those issues, they vote for Democrats cause they have policy ideas about those issues they support.

You can basically do that same thing with most of the democratic constituents, they want their particular group issues addressed that they think are directly impacting their lives for the worse. So of course they believe that stuff.
The vast majority of democratic voters do not identify as ideological liberal.
Their political concerns aren’t driven by this broad ideology that guides how they view all other political issues.

republican voters who broadly identify as conservatives on the other hand do claim to have this philosophical ideological belief system that guides how they view all political issues.

trump has exposed that all to be a huge fraud.
republicans don’t care about the conservative agenda at all.
republican voters couldn’t tell you what trump believes on any issue outside of hating Muslims, South American immigrants, and black people from crap hole nations, and they don’t care.

That’s my point.

The two parties are not mirror images of one another.

The Democratic Party is much more diverse, and has a wider set of disagreements within the party. My dad votes for Democrats, but he doesn’t care about lgbt rights or gay marriage, he doesn’t care about feminist issues, etc. I know many unionmembers who vote for democratic candidates, but they don’t support democrats focusing on fighting racism or housing and school segregation. This means getting democrats on the same page is very very difficult.

republicans are much more homogenous. The Republican Party is mostly older and bwhite Americans. That’s like 90% of the Party, and they have much narrower disagreements, they tend to care about the same issues, so messaging amongst republicans is very strong. Getting them on the same page is relatively easy.
Blacks have largely supported Democrats for how long? And Democrats have done what to great improve Black lives? The Dems controlled Conress for a 40 year stretch. What exactly did they do that improved Black lives?
 

zubenelgenubi

I'm a star
This makes no sense at all. My point is that republicans don't believe in the stuff that they discuss because they support trump, and your post is prove trump is a democrat to defeat him.

I responded to your post in the first part of my response, then I made a logical deduction about Trump and the people who complain about him, then gave a helpful suggestion about how to get rid of him, which would strike a blow to that terrible, oppressive, homogenic, hypocritical republican party you dislike so much. It's called a segue, I'll let you think about it for a bit, I know you'll understand, eventually, if you try hard enough.

Also, I have to ask, is this a second profile for @rickyb? He seems to have some similar views, believes everything he reads/hears from a very select group of people, and also has trouble with logic.
 
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refineryworker05

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Blacks have largely supported Democrats for how long? And Democrats have done what to great improve Black lives? The Dems controlled Conress for a 40 year stretch. What exactly did they do that improved Black lives?


You don’t read for comprehension.

One poster said voters in both political parties don’t believe what they claim to believe. In response to my saying republican vitae’s don’t care about the stuff they claim.

My example was to explain the difference in what core democratic voters believe versus republican voters.

So by using black Democratic voters as an example I was illustrating that unlike republican voters who don’t give a damn about this ideological conservatism, black voters really do believe their expressed positions.
 
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