Talk of layoffs after Xmas

Discussion in 'UPS Discussions' started by chevyman, Oct 11, 2008.

  1. chevyman

    chevyman Member

    I know after Xmas the volume drops off sharply, but MGMT in our barn is saying it expects to lay off 35 drivers out of about 125 drivers. What's the buzz everywhere else.
  2. Jack4343

    Jack4343 FT DR Specialist

    It's kinda early to even think about next year since we haven't even been through peak yet. However, we have seen cutbacks in the Atlanta area. Most of our cover drivers are now back in the building. I've been dealing with the route next to mine being cut out several days a week since May of this year. Of course, when this happens, the rest of us in the loop go over 9.5 and even over 10.5 and they have stopped taking that route out. It's now a planned under-dispatch which means it is intentionally loaded with under 8 hours of work and parts of the route are taken away and given to other drivers in the loop to make their routes plan to over 8 hours.

    Back to the original topic. Will layoffs happen in January? Probably not until February because of the new "extended peak" phenomenon caused by all the gift card and online returns but it will probably happen in most of the country unless DHL ceases it's ground operations completely (as it is now being rumored) and we get our old customers back. That will save us. I think our economy hasn't even begun to get near it's bottom yet and it will get worse before it gets better and we will be hurting next year.
  3. Overpaid Union Thug

    Overpaid Union Thug Well-Known Member

    Haven't heard a word about layoffs. In fact, volume has barely gone down this year at all.
  4. Monkey Butt

    Monkey Butt Dark Prince of Double Standards Staff Member

    In politics it is more like
    Conservatism appeals to logic. Liberalism appeals to emotion.
  5. outamyway

    outamyway New Member

    20 or so drivers all ready dropped back part time here. That doesn't include the other facility in Las Vegas. There, they laid off some drivers a couple months ago. I don't have a general figure of how many though. It will be ugly come Dec 26th.
  6. MR_Vengeance

    MR_Vengeance United Parcel Survivor

    it's gonna hit us hard when next year comes around. I think this is gonna be the lightest peak .........ever.
  7. rocket man

    rocket man Well-Known Member

    30 out 270 thats what i heard. I dont no what to belive? They say dhl is going out of buss. But were gonna charge them 10 billion to move there frieght. They are gonna do what they have to. Im glad to be ateamster. Were gonna need them . As far as can tell ups is not a company to not give dose not want lay anyone off . our scuz ball cms make you feel like its your fault were droping bussniess.Now the company is trying a salvage operation. When the whole time it should have been preventive matinance starting with useless on roads bad dispatch the wrong pkg cars on the wrong routes not setting up routes for a having a safe hour for lunch.Some of it is our fault:sad-very: we have some runners who blast out routes no lunch .20 thosand skip a lunch thats a lot of man hours,thats a lot of teamsters who could have been doing a route there are a lot of factors in this mess including the economy. I HOPE THE REST OF THE YEAR WORKS OUT AND WE ALL HAVE A GOOD NEXT YEAR.
  8. over9five

    over9five Moderator Staff Member

    I've heard management is wondering if this will be "The Peak that never came".
  9. 1989

    1989 Well-Known Member

    Doesn't sound like there will be any transfers to Vegas next year.
  10. Jones

    Jones fILE A GRIEVE! Staff Member

    If that's the case (and I'm not entirely sure that it is), then conservatism is completely absent from the current presidential race.

    And the way things are looking in my building, I would not want to be a junior driver come January. Hopefully things will be turning around before then.
  11. Monkey Butt

    Monkey Butt Dark Prince of Double Standards Staff Member

    You got it!
    Republicans are not conservatives anymore...just closer than "the Democrats" are.
  12. Brown287

    Brown287 Im not the Mail Man!

    My building is in San Jose, the supposed capitol of Silicon Valley. If you watch the news around here other than the housing bubble bursting the job front is great. With that said we have recently hired drivers in our building, but volume is down, stops are down and cars are being scratched daily. So if thats how we are I can only imagine how things are in areas of the country that are being hit hard. I predict the slowest peak in my history and severe layoffs starting towards the end of January. I feel for any driver with less than 5 years under their belt.
  13. newguy1

    newguy1 New Member

    in my center ive heard that they have actually been short on drivers and have had to borrow drivers from other centers....that i came on at a good time, will probably get laid off in december as planned (seasonal) but to wait for the call. volume hasnt been affected much at all, but no one really knows what going to happen this peak
  14. outta hours

    outta hours Active Member

    There are many versions of the story, but the basic premise is that a chicken eats lunch one day, and believes the sky is falling down because an acorn falls on her head. She decides to tell the King, and on her journey meets other animals who join her in the quest.

    In most retellings, the animals all have rhyming names such as Henny Penny, Cocky Lockey and Goosey Loosey. Finally, they come across Foxy Loxy, a fox who offers the chicken and her friends his help.
    After this point, there are many endings. In the most famous one, Foxy Loxy eats the chicken's friends, but the last one, usually Cocky Lockey, survives long enough to warn the chicken and she escapes. Other endings include Foxy eating them all.

    In other versions the moral is usually interpreted to mean "do not believe everything you are told". In the latter case, it could well be a cautionary tale. The Chicken jumps to a conclusion and whips the populace into mass hysteria, which the unscrupulous fox uses to manipulate them for his own benefit, some times as supper.

    Sound familiar? I think some of you would do well to re-read the story and learn the moral.
  15. Jones

    Jones fILE A GRIEVE! Staff Member

    I think analogies are generally a poor substitute for an actual argument, but that's probably just me :happy-very:
  16. cachsux

    cachsux Wah

    Become a vegetarian?
  17. over9five

    over9five Moderator Staff Member

    Never befriend a chicken?
  18. drewed

    drewed Shankman

    Id say unless there is a booming peak theyll be some layoffs, I wouldnt expect to see any until about the March time frame. I dont think theyll be wide spread and some of the divisions still have increasing volume
  19. Cobra Agent

    Cobra Agent Mandalorian

    how does that work exactly..... If you are fulltime driver and are laid off do you get bumped to part time or bumped into the building as fulltime? And what about pay? How does that work?
  20. New Englander

    New Englander New Member

    Here if your out of progression you get driver rate for 8 hours. Though it doesn't have to be one 8 hour block.

    After a certain amount of days of continuous layoff you go to what your time of service would equal at part time rate. Yet after 15 days we can bump into other buildings as well if they have less senior employees driving. Buildings same local.