Teamsters Endorse OBAMA

Overpaid Union Thug

Well-Known Member
I love my Company (UPS) but I also love my UNION (Teamsters) and I have to vote for what will work best for myself and my family.

This is one of the biggest problems plaguing our country. Too many Americans can only think about themselves. It's always "me, me, me." Whatever happened to electing a president that is going to benefit the entire country as a whole instead of electing one that will only satisfy the selfish needs of the individual and his own family. There are millions of other people living in the country.

The Teamsters, who I am not against as a union, are only supporting Obama because of their own selfish agenda. That pretty much sums up most democrats. To say that republicans are anti-labor is absurd and foolish. The government should have little or nothing to do with labor issues anyway. Most republicans (including myself) believe that the national government should have little to do with labor. Or any other aspects of our lives. The national government is supposed to be in place to do what local governments can't and shouldn't do. If anyone is concerned about a presidential candidate's impact (if elected) on labor then a republican is always the better choice simply because of lower taxes allowing businesses (small and large) to maintain and add jobs.

I am a proud Teamster but will not be voting for Obama. My conscious won't allow it. Let the Teamsters worry about handling labor issues. Our president, whoever it may be, has other responsibilities.
 

hyena

Well-Known Member
Im not debating work ethics with you, my point is people want to pick a canidate completely based on that its who the union picked. Which is the most idiotic thing ever.
Think for yourself people
I agree with you here nobody should vote for someone cause someone else told them to. Stand on your own feet and do research know why your voting for the person.
 

Catatonic

Nine Lives
I dont understand Drewed? How is Obama going to ruin the country when its holding on to its last breath now. Hes talking about rewarding companys for staying here in the U.S. Hes also saying hes going to give the middle class a tax break and increase the taxes on the rich.

Let's give Drewed a little bit of a break here...I think what he started out saying is that, "Don't vote for Obama because the Union said to. Vote because your logic and your ability to understand what each candidate brings to the table."

After that he went off on a tangent.

Wait a minute, what am I saying???? Don't give drewed a break!
 

3 done 3 to go

In control of own destiny
I always vote the opposite of the Union. It still pisses me off that they spend MILLIONS of our dues on politics. They should ask each member if they want to send money to Washington..I bet our dues would be 30-40 dollars. I really don't care for the unions opinions. I don't push my opinions on people why should they on us.
 

drewed

Shankman
I agree with you here nobody should vote for someone cause someone else told them to. Stand on your own feet and do research know why your voting for the person.

Im not here to debate policies (well atleast not in this thread) but this is the point i was trying to make, it would be like vets voting for McCain because hes a vet, women for hilary because she looks somewhat like a woman, or african americans voting for obama because the color of his skin, its a riduculous reason to vote for someone. We about a month till election night, so we need to make sure we make the right choices when we go out to vote.
 

paidslave

Well-Known Member
Re:What a Democrat will do for your country!

I always vote the opposite of the Union. It still pisses me off that they spend MILLIONS of our dues on politics. They should ask each member if they want to send money to Washington..I bet our dues would be 30-40 dollars. I really don't care for the unions opinions. I don't push my opinions on people why should they on us.



The Clinton Presidency: A Historic Era of Progress and Prosperity
  • Longest economic expansion in American history
    The President’s strategy of fiscal discipline, open foreign markets and investments in the American people helped create the conditions for a record 115 months of economic expansion. Our economy has grown at an average of 4 percent per year since 1993.
  • More than 22 million new jobs
    More than 22 million jobs were created in less than eight years -- the most ever under a single administration, and more than were created in the previous twelve years.
  • Highest homeownership in American history
    A strong economy and fiscal discipline kept interest rates low, making it possible for more families to buy homes. The homeownership rate increased from 64.2 percent in 1992 to 67. 7 percent, the highest rate ever.
  • Lowest unemployment in 30 years
    Unemployment dropped from more than 7 percent in 1993 to just 4.0 percent in November 2000. Unemployment for African Americans and Hispanics fell to the lowest rates on record, and the rate for women is the lowest in more than 40 years.
  • Raised education standards, increased school choice, and doubled education and training investment
    Since 1992, reading and math scores have increased for 4th, 8th, and 12th graders, math SAT scores are at a 30-year high, the number of charter schools has grown from 1 to more than 2,000, forty-nine states have put in place standards in core subjects and federal investment in education and training has doubled.
  • Largest expansion of college opportunity since the GI Bill
    President Clinton and Vice President Gore have nearly doubled financial aid for students by increasing Pell Grants to the largest award ever, expanding Federal Work-Study to allow 1 million students to work their way through college, and by creating new tax credits and scholarships such as Lifetime Learning tax credits and the HOPE scholarship. At the same time, taxpayers have saved $18 billion due to the decline in student loan defaults, increased collections and savings from the direct student loan program.
  • Connected 95 percent of schools to the Internet
    President Clinton and Vice President Gore’s new commitment to education technology, including the E-Rate and a 3,000 percent increase in educational technology funding, increased the percentage of schools connected to the Internet from 35 percent in 1994 to 95 percent in 1999.
  • Lowest crime rate in 26 years
    Because of President Clinton’s comprehensive anti-crime strategy of tough penalties, more police, and smart prevention, as well as common sense gun safety laws, the overall crime rate declined for 8 consecutive years, the longest continuous drop on record, and is at the lowest level since 1973.
  • 100,000 more police for our streets
    As part of the 1994 Crime Bill, President Clinton enacted a new initiative to fund 100,000 community police officers. To date more than 11,000 law enforcement agencies have received COPS funding.
  • Enacted most sweeping gun safety legislation in a generation
    Since the President signed the Brady bill in 1993, more than 600,000 felons, fugitives, and other prohibited persons have been stopped from buying guns. Gun crime has declined 40 percent since 1992.
  • Family and Medical Leave Act for 20 million Americans
    To help parents succeed at work and at home, President Clinton signed the Family and Medical Leave Act in 1993. Over 20 million Americans have taken unpaid leave to care for a newborn child or sick family member.
  • Smallest welfare rolls in 32 years
    The President pledged to end welfare as we know it and signed landmark bipartisan welfare reform legislation in 1996. Since then, caseloads have been cut in half, to the lowest level since 1968, and millions of parents have joined the workforce. People on welfare today are five times more likely to be working than in 1992.
  • Higher incomes at all levels
    After falling by nearly $2,000 between 1988 and 1992, the median family’s income rose by $6,338, after adjusting for inflation, since 1993. African American family income increased even more, rising by nearly $7,000 since 1993. After years of stagnant income growth among average and lower income families, all income brackets experienced double-digit growth since 1993. The bottom 20 percent saw the largest income growth at 16.3 percent.
  • Lowest poverty rate in 20 years
    Since Congress passed President Clinton’s Economic Plan in 1993, the poverty rate declined from 15.1 percent to 11.8 percent last year — the largest six-year drop in poverty in nearly 30 years. There are now 7 million fewer people in poverty than in 1993. The child poverty rate declined more than 25 percent, the poverty rates for single mothers, African Americans and the elderly have dropped to their lowest levels on record, and Hispanic poverty dropped to its lowest level since 1979.
  • Lowest teen birth rate in 60 years
    In his 1995 State of the Union Address, President Clinton challenged Americans to join together in a national campaign against teen pregnancy. The birth rate for teens aged 15-19 declined every year of the Clinton Presidency, from 60.7 per 1,000 teens in 1992 to a record low of 49.6 in 1999.
  • Lowest infant mortality rate in American history
    The Clinton Administration expanded efforts to provide mothers and newborn children with health care. Today, a record high 82 percent of all mothers receive prenatal care. The infant mortality rate has dropped from 8.5 deaths per 1,000 in 1992 to 7.2 deaths per 1,000 in 1998, the lowest rate ever recorded.
  • Deactivated more than 1,700 nuclear warheads from the former Soviet Union
    Efforts of the Clinton-Gore Administration led to the dismantling of more than 1,700 nuclear warheads, 300 launchers and 425 land and submarine based missiles from the former Soviet Union.
  • Protected millions of acres of American land
    President Clinton has protected more land in the lower 48 states than any other president. He has protected 5 new national parks, designated 11 new national monuments and expanded two others and proposed protections for 60 million acres of roadless areas in America’s national forests.
  • Paid off $360 billion of the national debt
    Between 1998-2000, the national debt was reduced by $363 billion — the largest three-year debt pay-down in American history. We are now on track to pay off the entire debt by 2009.
  • Converted the largest budget deficit in American history to the largest surplus
    Thanks in large part to the 1993 Deficit Reduction Act, the 1997 Balanced Budget Act, and President Clinton’s call to save the surplus for debt reduction, Social Security, and Medicare solvency, America has put its fiscal house in order. The deficit was $290 billion in 1993 and expected to grow to $455 billion by this year. Instead, we have a projected surplus of $237 billion.
  • Lowest government spending in three decades
    Under President Clinton federal government spending as a share of the economy has decreased from 22.2 percent in 1992 to a projected 18.5 percent in 2000, the lowest since 1966.
  • Lowest federal income tax burden in 35 years
    President Clinton enacted targeted tax cuts such as the Earned Income Tax Credit expansion, $500 child tax credit, and the HOPE Scholarship and Lifetime Learning Tax Credits. Federal income taxes as a percentage of income for the typical American family have dropped to their lowest level in 35 years.
  • More families own stock than ever before
    The number of families owning stock in the United States increased by 40 percent since 1992.
  • Most diverse cabinet in American history
    The President has appointed more African Americans, women and Hispanics to the Cabinet than any other President in history. He appointed the first female Attorney General, the first female Secretary of State and the first Asian American cabinet secretary ever.
This is the best one: Lowest government spending in three decades
Under President Clinton federal government spending as a share of the economy has decreased from 22.2 percent in 1992 to a projected 18.5 percent in 2000, the lowest since 1966

How much has The Baby Bush Republican Bleeding heart liberal spent? I think it is an ALL TIME record.....
 

Leftinbuilding

Well-Known Member
Im not here to debate policies (well atleast not in this thread) but this is the point i was trying to make, it would be like vets voting for McCain because hes a vet, women for hilary because she looks somewhat like a woman, or african americans voting for obama because the color of his skin, its a riduculous reason to vote for someone. We about a month till election night, so we need to make sure we make the right choices when we go out to vote.

LOL :happy-very::happy-very::happy-very::happy-very:
 

Overpaid Union Thug

Well-Known Member
Re: What a Democrat will do for your country!

The Clinton Presidency: A Historic Era of Progress and Prosperity
  • Longest economic expansion in American history
    The President’s strategy of fiscal discipline, open foreign markets and investments in the American people helped create the conditions for a record 115 months of economic expansion. Our economy has grown at an average of 4 percent per year since 1993.
  • More than 22 million new jobs
    More than 22 million jobs were created in less than eight years -- the most ever under a single administration, and more than were created in the previous twelve years.
  • Highest homeownership in American history
    A strong economy and fiscal discipline kept interest rates low, making it possible for more families to buy homes. The homeownership rate increased from 64.2 percent in 1992 to 67. 7 percent, the highest rate ever.
  • Lowest unemployment in 30 years
    Unemployment dropped from more than 7 percent in 1993 to just 4.0 percent in November 2000. Unemployment for African Americans and Hispanics fell to the lowest rates on record, and the rate for women is the lowest in more than 40 years.
  • Raised education standards, increased school choice, and doubled education and training investment
    Since 1992, reading and math scores have increased for 4th, 8th, and 12th graders, math SAT scores are at a 30-year high, the number of charter schools has grown from 1 to more than 2,000, forty-nine states have put in place standards in core subjects and federal investment in education and training has doubled.
  • Largest expansion of college opportunity since the GI Bill
    President Clinton and Vice President Gore have nearly doubled financial aid for students by increasing Pell Grants to the largest award ever, expanding Federal Work-Study to allow 1 million students to work their way through college, and by creating new tax credits and scholarships such as Lifetime Learning tax credits and the HOPE scholarship. At the same time, taxpayers have saved $18 billion due to the decline in student loan defaults, increased collections and savings from the direct student loan program.
  • Connected 95 percent of schools to the Internet
    President Clinton and Vice President Gore’s new commitment to education technology, including the E-Rate and a 3,000 percent increase in educational technology funding, increased the percentage of schools connected to the Internet from 35 percent in 1994 to 95 percent in 1999.
  • Lowest crime rate in 26 years
    Because of President Clinton’s comprehensive anti-crime strategy of tough penalties, more police, and smart prevention, as well as common sense gun safety laws, the overall crime rate declined for 8 consecutive years, the longest continuous drop on record, and is at the lowest level since 1973.
  • 100,000 more police for our streets
    As part of the 1994 Crime Bill, President Clinton enacted a new initiative to fund 100,000 community police officers. To date more than 11,000 law enforcement agencies have received COPS funding.
  • Enacted most sweeping gun safety legislation in a generation
    Since the President signed the Brady bill in 1993, more than 600,000 felons, fugitives, and other prohibited persons have been stopped from buying guns. Gun crime has declined 40 percent since 1992.
  • Family and Medical Leave Act for 20 million Americans
    To help parents succeed at work and at home, President Clinton signed the Family and Medical Leave Act in 1993. Over 20 million Americans have taken unpaid leave to care for a newborn child or sick family member.
  • Smallest welfare rolls in 32 years
    The President pledged to end welfare as we know it and signed landmark bipartisan welfare reform legislation in 1996. Since then, caseloads have been cut in half, to the lowest level since 1968, and millions of parents have joined the workforce. People on welfare today are five times more likely to be working than in 1992.
  • Higher incomes at all levels
    After falling by nearly $2,000 between 1988 and 1992, the median family’s income rose by $6,338, after adjusting for inflation, since 1993. African American family income increased even more, rising by nearly $7,000 since 1993. After years of stagnant income growth among average and lower income families, all income brackets experienced double-digit growth since 1993. The bottom 20 percent saw the largest income growth at 16.3 percent.
  • Lowest poverty rate in 20 years
    Since Congress passed President Clinton’s Economic Plan in 1993, the poverty rate declined from 15.1 percent to 11.8 percent last year — the largest six-year drop in poverty in nearly 30 years. There are now 7 million fewer people in poverty than in 1993. The child poverty rate declined more than 25 percent, the poverty rates for single mothers, African Americans and the elderly have dropped to their lowest levels on record, and Hispanic poverty dropped to its lowest level since 1979.
  • Lowest teen birth rate in 60 years
    In his 1995 State of the Union Address, President Clinton challenged Americans to join together in a national campaign against teen pregnancy. The birth rate for teens aged 15-19 declined every year of the Clinton Presidency, from 60.7 per 1,000 teens in 1992 to a record low of 49.6 in 1999.
  • Lowest infant mortality rate in American history
    The Clinton Administration expanded efforts to provide mothers and newborn children with health care. Today, a record high 82 percent of all mothers receive prenatal care. The infant mortality rate has dropped from 8.5 deaths per 1,000 in 1992 to 7.2 deaths per 1,000 in 1998, the lowest rate ever recorded.
  • Deactivated more than 1,700 nuclear warheads from the former Soviet Union
    Efforts of the Clinton-Gore Administration led to the dismantling of more than 1,700 nuclear warheads, 300 launchers and 425 land and submarine based missiles from the former Soviet Union.
  • Protected millions of acres of American land
    President Clinton has protected more land in the lower 48 states than any other president. He has protected 5 new national parks, designated 11 new national monuments and expanded two others and proposed protections for 60 million acres of roadless areas in America’s national forests.
  • Paid off $360 billion of the national debt
    Between 1998-2000, the national debt was reduced by $363 billion — the largest three-year debt pay-down in American history. We are now on track to pay off the entire debt by 2009.
  • Converted the largest budget deficit in American history to the largest surplus
    Thanks in large part to the 1993 Deficit Reduction Act, the 1997 Balanced Budget Act, and President Clinton’s call to save the surplus for debt reduction, Social Security, and Medicare solvency, America has put its fiscal house in order. The deficit was $290 billion in 1993 and expected to grow to $455 billion by this year. Instead, we have a projected surplus of $237 billion.
  • Lowest government spending in three decades
    Under President Clinton federal government spending as a share of the economy has decreased from 22.2 percent in 1992 to a projected 18.5 percent in 2000, the lowest since 1966.
  • Lowest federal income tax burden in 35 years
    President Clinton enacted targeted tax cuts such as the Earned Income Tax Credit expansion, $500 child tax credit, and the HOPE Scholarship and Lifetime Learning Tax Credits. Federal income taxes as a percentage of income for the typical American family have dropped to their lowest level in 35 years.
  • More families own stock than ever before
    The number of families owning stock in the United States increased by 40 percent since 1992.
  • Most diverse cabinet in American history
    The President has appointed more African Americans, women and Hispanics to the Cabinet than any other President in history. He appointed the first female Attorney General, the first female Secretary of State and the first Asian American cabinet secretary ever.
This is the best one: Lowest government spending in three decades
Under President Clinton federal government spending as a share of the economy has decreased from 22.2 percent in 1992 to a projected 18.5 percent in 2000, the lowest since 1966

How much has The Baby Bush Republican Bleeding heart liberal spent? I think it is an ALL TIME record.....

I pay little attention to these type of things. Usually the only interesting things about them is the end result after running through a fact check session.
 

dannyboy

From the promised LAND
mike

how much is a fair days pay? give me a number. what should min wage be, number please? what types of bennies should an employer have to pay for for each employee.

d
 

BrownSuit

Well-Known Member
And one wonders why this is a discouraged topic of conversation at work :whiteflag:. Also for the sake of everybody else, this is long, so PLEASE do not quote this post in it's entirety.

So does anybody ask "Why are labor Unions and Democrats usually good bedfellows?"

Well Hoaxter was close to it, it really goes back to the start of Unions in this country when Unions and Democrats were anti-immigration (to the extent of discriminating against Chinese workers at the turn of the century). Republicans and Big Business were in favor of immigration and as a result lined up. The lines have pretty much remained the same throughout the years.

Samuel G, the founder of the American Federation of Labor, on the longest standing union organizations in the country, (The AFL part of the AFL-CIO) was a strong supporter of Democrats personally for these and other reasons.

There were a number of other unions that were radical and leaning socialistic, hence the near demise of the labor Unions during the McCarthy days because of the Communist Witch hunts going on in our country.

Mike's logic on Hoaxter being a racist for not supporting Obama is an interesting one. Who emancipated the slaves? A Democrat or Republican? Which party had a higher percentage of votes for Civil Rights legislation, despite being in the Minority during the 60's? I'll give you a hint; it was the Republicans with generally 20% higher votes in favor of Civil Rights legislations than the Democrats, despite being in the minority.

Fast-forward to 2008. The economy is in the tank, believe it or not, this has not so much to do with President George W. Bush and a lot more to do with policies enacted by people like Alan Greenspan, who Bush kept around for a fifth term as Chairman of the Federal Reserve.

The Dot.com bust, 9/11, Enron (which resulted in Sarbanes-Oxley) and a number of other events have also contributed to the current economic situation.

Bush is not innocent here people, he then appointed people like Ben Bernanke, and Henry Paulson. This in part led to the rise and fall of sub-prime mortgages. He also has not been fiscally conservative, in part because of our conflicts and commitments abroad.

Bush’s position towards the bailout is further left of the Party's platform in this area, which typically lends towards Free Market Principles and ideals. A let the market fix itself ideal. The party platform does not jive with the bailout proposal. That's why there were more Republicans opposing it than Democrats. It finally only passed after adding another $100 Billion in pork barrel spending and folks on both sides of the aisles calling those who voted 'NO' and telling them to vote 'YES'.

What does all this have to do with Labor Unions? A fiscally conservative President is a GOOD THING FOR LABOR UNIONS. They generate jobs, get rid of big government (and big brother who regulates to the hilt), look to stimulate economic growth through tax cuts and encourage businesses to stay in the United States.

So what about John McCain? Well the good Senator has said it himself; he is a "Maverick" from the party. He is considered by many to be a moderate, not necessarily fiscally or socially conservative.

So would John McCain be good for Big Labor? Not necessarily. Would Barak Obama, a Democrat, be good for Big Labor? At this point, I'm not sure either. He seems to be looking to reduce the size of the National Debt and the number of Government Employees, is looking to rescind trade agreements with other countries, but at the same time was also in favor of the bailout and additional regulation across the board.

So is either candidate a really great person to have? Not really. Do I understand why the Teamsters waited this long? It's better to have the party you've also been in bed with than to have somebody you don't really know to support.

This is going to be an interesting election for sure.
 

tieguy

Banned
I dont understand Drewed? How is Obama going to ruin the country when its holding on to its last breath now. Hes talking about rewarding companys for staying here in the U.S. Hes also saying hes going to give the middle class a tax break and increase the taxes on the rich.

First he will let the bush cuts expire which will actually raise taxes on the lower and middle class .

then he will jack up the taxes on all while claiming its only the rich. he will use smoke and mirrors to lead you to believe your taxes were lowered.

Once done jacking up the various taxes he will choke and stifle the ecconomy creating further financial hardship.

He will weaken our military as clinton did leaving us wide open for another 9/11

If you remember 9/11 had a catostrophic effect on our economy.

 

tieguy

Banned
Re: What a Democrat will do for your country!

The Clinton Presidency: A Historic Era of Progress and Prosperity
You forgot weakened our intelligence agencies and military creating the conditions that allowed 9/11 to happen.

Weakened the financing laws creating the conditions that allowed our present finance crisis to occur.

How about actively engaged in sexual harrassment?

how about desecrated the oval office by engaging in extra marital affairs with a subordinate?
 

over10.5

Well-Known Member
The only reason mcsame is getting all of the religious nut balls votes is because of abortion.. There is alot more at stake than this single issue...
 

1989

Well-Known Member
I got the Teamster democratic propaganda magazine a couple days ago. On page 2 they talk about the Washington state gubernatoral race. How the republican canidate fought dirty in 2004. But fail to mention how the democrates stole the election by having three recounts until they won. On the third recount they could "evaluate voter intent and correct" previously rejected ballots and counted ballots with improper signatures. They even had deceased people voting in the biggest voter fraud I've ever seen.
 

outamyway

Well-Known Member
I got the Teamster democratic propaganda magazine a couple days ago. On page 2 they talk about the Washington state gubernatoral race. How the republican canidate fought dirty in 2004. But fail to mention how the democrates stole the election by having three recounts until they won. On the third recount they could "evaluate voter intent and correct" previously rejected ballots and counted ballots with improper signatures. They even had deceased people voting in the biggest voter fraud I've ever seen.

I have a feeling things are going to see much worse when this election is so called over with. We probably won't know who won until December.
 

chev

Nightcrawler
9/11 happened on retards watch
......everything leading up to it happened on CLINTON'S watch.
Why does it always turn into a Bush bashing session?
This post was about the Teamsters doing what they always do. Support the Dem. party IE Osama.....ooops, I mean Obama....damn typos. :wink2:
 
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