The more things change ...

Discussion in 'Current Events' started by curiousbrain, May 19, 2012.

  1. curiousbrain

    curiousbrain Well-Known Member

    And yet, however just these sentiments will be allowed to be, we have already sufficient indications that it will happen in this as in all former cases of great national discussion. A torrent of angry and malignant passions will be let loose. To judge from the conduct of the opposite parties, we shall be led to conclude that they will mutually hope to evince the justness of their opinions, and to increase the number of their converts by the loudness of their declamations and the bitterness of their invectives. An enlightened zeal for the energy and efficiency of government will be stigmatized as the offspring of a temper fond of despotic power and hostile to the principles of liberty. An over-scrupulous jealousy of danger to the rights of the people, which is more commonly the fault of the head than of the heart, will be represented as mere pretense and artifice, the stale bait for popularity at the expense of the public good. It will be forgotten, on the one hand, that jealousy is the usual concomitant of love, and that the noble enthusiasm of liberty is apt to be infected with a spirit of narrow and illiberal distrust. On the other hand, it will be equally forgotten that the vigor of government is essential to the security of liberty; that, in the contemplation of a sound and well-informed judgment, their interest can never be separated; and that a dangerous ambition more often lurks behind the specious mask of zeal for the rights of the people than under the forbidden appearance of zeal for the firmness and efficiency of government. History will teach us that the former has been found a much more certain road to the introduction of despotism than the latter, and that of those men who have overturned the liberties of republics, the greatest number have begun their career by paying an obsequious court to the people; commencing demagogues, and ending tyrants.
  2. Jones

    Jones fILE A GRIEVE! Staff Member

    TL;DR version:
    We got an election coming up.
  3. DS

    DS Fenderbender

    brownbags,c' didn't write that didja?
    It was like a politicians speech...a lot about nuthin'
  4. moreluck

    moreluck golden ticket member

    Whew! I thought the Alzheimer's had set in !!
  5. curiousbrain

    curiousbrain Well-Known Member

  6. curiousbrain

    curiousbrain Well-Known Member

    For someone who is so politically aware, you of all people should take the time to read, and think, what that post said - considering that, after all, it was a Founding Father.

    Good to know; apparently, what the Founding Fathers had to say was apparently "a lot about nothing."
  7. DS

    DS Fenderbender

    Whatever man,founding fathers means zip to me.
    However many words that spiel took up could be said in one sentence.
    People will always disagree and government will never be able to change it.
  8. moreluck

    moreluck golden ticket member

    There is both political awareness of today's goings on and political awareness of all things since 1776.

    I don't do history...that's wkmac.
    I am not a history buff, never have been and don't claim to be.

    I am more interested in the Edwards-type disasters.......Clinton/Lewinsky................Kennedy/Monroe know, the exciting stuff.

    Oh, and I did read that first post and I posted a wtf picture...... which is exactly what I felt after reading it.
  9. ajblakejr

    ajblakejr Age quod agis

    I read it and recognized it.

    Considering the "fathers" wrote in beautiful longhand script which made the words beautiful to the eye.

    I had to copy it and bring it into readable text before it hit me square in the eyes.