THE TRUMP 2024 THREAD

vantexan

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Don't be too trusting of hospice care. In our mother's final days. She was in a hospital at the time before her final trip back to the nursing home hospice called up and talked to my brother about the services it offered. It went like this:

Hospice: "We can come in and fluff her pillow and check on her condition"
Brother " Isn't that what CNA 's and social workers do?
Hospice: "We can read bible verses to her"
Brother: "She's stone deaf".

And in a snide arrogant voice hospice employee's final words before she angerly hung up were: "Oh well, the infection is going to kill her anyway".

It made it obvious that all they were looking for was billings which meant that for all intents and purposes they were looking to get paid for doing....nothing.

So don't confuse home health nurses with hospice.
But the hospitals are in the business of trying to make better. If they can't they say there's nothing more they can do. They aren't just going to let someone linger in their room for a couple of weeks until they die. Hospices are there to take the burden off a family by making the dying patient as comfortable as possible including administering pain killers. If a family wants to do all that themselves there's no law saying they can't beyond I'm assuming administering things like morphine.

End of life sucks. But it's part of it.
 

UnionStrong

Sorry, but I don’t care anymore.
What are u arguing. It’s not up for debate. Electing democrats, because of their green energy fetishized, makes the price of oil go up. Whether that’s because oil execs don’t like them, or whatever reason, I don’t care why. It happens period. If the reason isn’t that they’re democrats, then that really makes Biden look bad and makes trump look like even more of a wizard for how low the price of fuel was. Either way, you lose! Good day sir!
Hear! Hear!
 

oldngray

nowhere special
But the hospitals are in the business of trying to make better. If they can't they say there's nothing more they can do. They aren't just going to let someone linger in their room for a couple of weeks until they die. Hospices are there to take the burden off a family by making the dying patient as comfortable as possible including administering pain killers. If a family wants to do all that themselves there's no law saying they can't beyond I'm assuming administering things like morphine.

End of life sucks. But it's part of it.
Hospice is like a death watch. My sister did it for a while but got to be too depressing for her.

Dirty little secret is how often they will give the patient an overdose of morphine to quietly end it if the pain gets too bad.
 

UnionStrong

Sorry, but I don’t care anymore.
Hospice is like a death watch. My sister did it for a while but got to be too depressing for her.

Dirty little secret is how often they will give the patient an overdose of morphine to quietly end it if the pain gets too bad.
Bingo. I witnessed it first hand.
 

vantexan

Well-Known Member
Hospice is like a death watch. My sister did it for a while but got to be too depressing for her.

Dirty little secret is how often they will give the patient an overdose of morphine to quietly end it if the pain gets too bad.
My grandmother was in hospice care at home. Had congestive heart failure. Her care required being careful giving her too much fluid. My two aunts showed up and thought she was dehydrated and called an ambulance. My dad had signed a contract with hospice saying they were responsible for all care so when the ambulance took her to the ER and the hospice director found out she chewed out my dad. My grandmother died that night because the ER didn't know her situation and gave her too much fluid trying to rehydrate her. She could've gone at any time in the next week but still.
 

oldngray

nowhere special
My grandmother was in hospice care at home. Had congestive heart failure. Her care required being careful giving her too much fluid. My two aunts showed up and thought she was dehydrated and called an ambulance. My dad had signed a contract with hospice saying they were responsible for all care so when the ambulance took her to the ER and the hospice director found out she chewed out my dad. My grandmother died that night because the ER didn't know her situation and gave her too much fluid trying to rehydrate her. She could've gone at any time in the next week but still.
Nursing homes are worse. People there can get neglected all the time.
 

vantexan

Well-Known Member
I delivered to a nursing home years ago, death factories.
One of my aunts was in a top of the line facility charging $30k a month. Man was that place nice. I worked all over the U.S. and have been in a lot of nursing homes that smelled horrible. I may do the Thelma and Louise off the Grand Canyon before I go into one of those places.
 

UnionStrong

Sorry, but I don’t care anymore.
One of my aunts was in a top of the line facility charging $30k a month. Man was that place nice. I worked all over the U.S. and have been in a lot of nursing homes that smelled horrible. I may do the Thelma and Louise off the Grand Canyon before I go into one of those places.
The smell of piss and death permeates most of them.
 

oldngray

nowhere special
One of my aunts was in a top of the line facility charging $30k a month. Man was that place nice. I worked all over the U.S. and have been in a lot of nursing homes that smelled horrible. I may do the Thelma and Louise off the Grand Canyon before I go into one of those places.
A few of the more expensive ones are the exception. Too many are for the Medicaid people who have no family to take care of them.
 

bacha29

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A few of the more expensive ones are the exception. Too many are for the Medicaid people who have no family to take care of them.
Nationwide 62% of all nursing homes are on Medicaid because they have outlived their personal savings leaving Medicaid to step in.
 

bacha29

Well-Known Member
My grandmother was in hospice care at home. Had congestive heart failure. Her care required being careful giving her too much fluid. My two aunts showed up and thought she was dehydrated and called an ambulance. My dad had signed a contract with hospice saying they were responsible for all care so when the ambulance took her to the ER and the hospice director found out she chewed out my dad. My grandmother died that night because the ER didn't know her situation and gave her too much fluid trying to rehydrate her. She could've gone at any time in the next week but still.
Home health nurses are the ones qualified to do the things you say because many are RN.s But some hospice employees have little to no medical training and can only offer comfort and emotional support. In my mom's case because of her brain cancer she was barely cognizant top of the line hearing aids provided only a minimal degree of hearing . And about 2-3 weeks from her death who show up? Hospice. My brother's response was : "Who in the expletive deleted are you people and what are you doing here this late in the process?'.

And then to announce their arrival accompanied by a generous helping of bad attitude.
 
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