THE TRUMP 2024 THREAD

rickyb

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If they thought enriching uranium to 60% gave them power in negotiations they certainly thought wrong, eh? You really believe they were willing to get bombed as hard as they did just for a civilian use only nuclear program?
they agreed to 4% under obama which trump ripped up, which was working and the whole world was involved with that agreement.

and again trump was initially negotiating 4% until he started listening to the neo cons and it dropped to 0% which the neo cons knew iran was never going to accept.
 

vantexan

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youre wrong about the last 2 sentences

no iran used it as a deterrent and leverage in negotiations. it gave them the option in the future to make a nuke, it wouldve taken a while. they werent in violation of hte NPT by going to 60%.


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i dont think israel neutralized it. we dont know what happened regarding those 3 attacks america did. i dont know why the war stopped, probably because it was going to be a disaster one way or another for israel / iran and america.
Yes, Obama's agreement gave them the ability to eventually have a nuke. That's insane and should have never happened.
 

Box Ox

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iran used it as a deterrent and leverage in negotiations. it gave them the option in the future to make a nuke, it wouldve taken a while. they werent in violation of hte NPT by going to 60%.

Yes, they built a hardened nuclear facility hundreds of feet below the surface of a mountain and enriched uranium to 60% there just so they could have leverage in negotiations for a civilian use only nuclear program.
 

vantexan

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they agreed to 4% under obama which trump ripped up, which was working and the whole world was involved with that agreement.

and again trump was initially negotiating 4% until he started listening to the neo cons and it dropped to 0% which the neo cons knew iran was never going to accept.
Do you know what sealed Iran's doom? They backed Hamas attacking Israel on October 7th and were backing the Houthis. Trump had had enough. When the UN report came out Trump gave Iran 60 days to negotiate a deal. They arrogantly believed he wouldn't do anything and they found out differently.
 

rickyb

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Do you know what sealed Iran's doom? They backed Hamas attacking Israel on October 7th and were backing the Houthis. Trump had had enough. When the UN report came out Trump gave Iran 60 days to negotiate a deal. They arrogantly believed he wouldn't do anything and they found out differently.
they were never doomed. they didnt lose its a ceasefire lol. i dont know if you will get a nuclear agreement like obamas, but you might. it will probably be that 4% number again. it might be worse than obamas considering iran got attacked based on information they gave up during the JCPOA.
 

Box Ox

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iran will enrich but it will be 4% like obama deal.
Yes, they built a hardened nuclear facility hundreds of feet below the surface of a mountain and enriched uranium to 60% there just so they could have leverage in negotiations for a civilian use only nuclear program.
so they could get it up to 90%

Which is what's needed to create nuclear weapons. Thanks for the admission.
 

vantexan

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they were never doomed. they didnt lose its a ceasefire lol. i dont know if you will get a nuclear agreement like obamas, but you might. it will probably be that 4% number again. it might be worse than obamas considering iran got attacked based on information they gave up during the JCPOA.
They lost they're ability to make nukes for many years to come. By the way Iran's electric grid runs primarily on natural gas which they have plenty of. They don't need nuclear power. Be grateful that Trump didn't take out their grid, their ports, or the island where they load oil on tankers. Could have, but he isn't trying to hurt their population. There's still hope the Iranian leadership will be forced out.
 

rickyb

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They lost they're ability to make nukes for many years to come. By the way Iran's electric grid runs primarily on natural gas which they have plenty of. They don't need nuclear power. Be grateful that Trump didn't take out their grid, their ports, or the island where they load oil on tankers. Could have, but he isn't trying to hurt their population. There's still hope the Iranian leadership will be forced out.
they sell their oil. nuclear reactors are for energy
 

rickyb

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Which is what's needed to create nuclear weapons. Thanks for the admission.
you can still have it high and not make them and not be in violation of NPT which they signed on which israel has not. htey have to deliver them too. dni.gov did a report saying they were not pursing it and even precious tulsi gabbard said the same thing march 2025 to which trump said i dont care what she said lol. actually i think greenwald said all western intelligence concluded the same thing.
 

vantexan

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you can still have it high and not make them and not be in violation of NPT which they signed on which israel has not. htey have to deliver them too. dni.gov did a report saying they were not pursing it and even precious tulsi gabbard said the same thing march 2025 to which trump said i dont care what she said lol. actually i think greenwald said all western intelligence concluded the same thing.
Dude uranium that enriched would make nuclear power reactors extremely unstable. That's why enrichment for nuclear power is kept under 4%.
 

Box Ox

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"The dishonest media is intentionally taking my testimony out of context and spreading fake news as a way to manufacture division. America has intelligence that Iran is at the point that it can produce a nuclear weapon within weeks to months, if they decide to finalize the assembly. President Trump has been clear that can’t happen, and I agree."

We've discussed this over and over again.

We know Iran wasn't in the process of building the nuclear weapons themselves. But no country without nuclear weapons or that isn't intending to build nuclear weapons has ever enriched uranium to 60%. You don't even need to enrich to 4% for civilian nuclear purposes. And it wouldn't have taken Iran long to further enrich to 90% and build a bomb.
 

rickyb

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@Box Ox



it was leverage for negotiations and they could go the nuclear route like israel if they wanted to but it wouldve taken some time. theyre not in violation of anything at 60% btw.
 
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