THE TRUMP 2024 THREAD

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You assume you know how those held feel about it. Your fellow citizens are having their Constitutional rights trampled on. If the day comes that the government controlled by people you disagree with trampled on your rights you may have an epiphany. Maybe.
I assume those being held think it sucks. I’m surprised there aren’t attorneys daily attempting to get them out and appealing to higher and higher courts to do so. In fact, is anyone doing anything about it?

Biggest surprise is that Trump just didn’t pardon all of them on the way out the door. Kind of a dick move really.
 

vantexan

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I assume those being held think it sucks. I’m surprised there aren’t attorneys daily attempting to get them out and appealing to higher and higher courts to do so. In fact, is anyone doing anything about it?

Biggest surprise is that Trump just didn’t pardon all of them on the way out the door. Kind of a dick move really.
You're assuming no one is working on their behalf. Maybe getting in front of tv cameras to attack the Federal government isn't the best strategy to get them released. As to the prisoners I know for a fact that at least some were given house arrest after about a month in jail. Not all of them were thrown in cells with the key thrown away.
 

Thebrownblob

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Isn’t it fascinating that there haven’t been motions filed, rulings made, appeals to higher courts and directions given from those higher courts?

It’s like the entire justice system has told them, “Sit down. Shut up. We’ll get to you when we’re damn good and ready.” It’s almost like one of the branches of government is offended at being appealed to to save the asses that wanted to impede the peaceful transfer of power. Like they’re absolutely fine slow walking the entire process in order to twist the dagger. Maybe they don’t really care if they lose on appeal or even if they get a conviction.

At the end of the day, maybe they shrug their shoulders and say, “Message sent.”
I’m not certain if there has not been people doing filings and trying to get the justice system moving as it’s constitutionally required.

The fact that you sound OK with American citizens being treated that way and not having their day court with a speedy trial is more fascinating perhaps even frightening.
 

Thebrownblob

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I assume those being held think it sucks. I’m surprised there aren’t attorneys daily attempting to get them out and appealing to higher and higher courts to do so. In fact, is anyone doing anything about it?

Biggest surprise is that Trump just didn’t pardon all of them on the way out the door. Kind of a dick move really.

Their attorneys are trying daily, as well as some politicians.

Your comment about Trump is right on the money. Should really get the ball rolling in your head with questions about what’s really going on. You’ll notice the supposed leader of all this didn’t go to jail.
 

vantexan

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Their attorneys are trying daily, as well as some politicians.

Your comment about Trump is right on the money. Should really get the ball rolling in your head with questions about what’s really going on. You’ll notice the supposed leader of all this didn’t go to jail.
I'm betting Trump was advised not to pardon them because it would make him look to be part of a conspiracy.
 

Thebrownblob

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I'm betting Trump was advised not to pardon them because it would make him look to be part of a conspiracy.
Maybe, but Trump is a man who says he makes his own choices, and for a guy who said that he sure defers a lot of blame for things that happened on his watch. Just like telling us he was going to drain the swamp and then hiring nothing but swamp people it just doesn’t make sense.

Letting people rot in jail, and their lives ruined, is really not acceptable imo.
 

vantexan

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Maybe, but Trump is a man who says he makes his own choices, and for a guy who said that he sure defers a lot of blame for things that happened on his watch. Just like telling us he was going to drain the swamp and then hiring nothing but swamp people it just doesn’t make sense.

Letting people rot in jail, and their lives ruined, is really not acceptable imo.
I agree, but it would have been tough for him to claim in court he had nothing to do with storming the Capitol Building if he pardoned all of them as if he had their back if they got in trouble. Even if that had never occurred to them it's likely prosecutors would have argued that point.
 

Thebrownblob

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I agree, but it would have been tough for him to claim in court he had nothing to do with storming the Capitol Building if he pardoned all of them as if he had their back if they got in trouble. Even if that had never occurred to them it's likely prosecutors would have argued that point.
I find it troubling He also called for more protests if he’s arrested, is he crazy? Why would anyone protest for him when he didn’t lift a finger and why hasn’t he called for protests about the people in prison illegally and unconstitutionally?
It seems it’s always a him. And why didn’t he use some of the stop the steal money to defend these people. It’s no secret the first $8000 anyone donate to it, went directly in his pocket, and the Republican national committee. Anything above and beyond that was supposedly used to defend Donald Trump’s stop the steal campaign. It all smacks of grift to me.
 
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vantexan

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I find it troubling He also called for more protests if he’s arrested, is he crazy? Why would anyone protest for him when he didn’t lift a finger and why hasn’t he called for protests about the people in prison illegally and unconstitutionally?
It seems it’s always a him. And why did he use some of the stop the steal money to defend these people. It’s no secret the first $8000 anyone donate it, went directly in his pocket, and the Republican national committee. Anything above and beyond that was supposedly used to defend Donald Trump’s stop the steal campaign. It all smacks of grift to me.
I truly wish he would use his own money. It has come out that, while very wealthy, he's not as rich as he has claimed. What amazes me is men like him and Biden, and Clinton, are so full of themselves that they think they can overcome the skeletons in their closets. Apparently these days they can.
 

Thebrownblob

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I truly wish he would use his own money. It has come out that, while very wealthy, he's not as rich as he has claimed. What amazes me is men like him and Biden, and Clinton, are so full of themselves that they think they can overcome the skeletons in their closets. Apparently these days they can.
It’s a problem for all of these people and their egos are huge. But I’ve always said anybody who runs for president have to have a pretty good size ego because they’re talking about their selves constantly having billboards and signs and stickers plastered everywhere with their name on it.
 

Yolo

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I ain't going out on no protest for Trump. We all know the protests are set up as a trap to arrest and frame true patriot trump supporters. We must find a different way where the feds can't trick us into bashing a cop over the head.
 

728ups

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Easily defeated? He had 75 million votes. I worry about him from the opposite direction. While you hope he splits the vote if he doesn't get the nomination I worry that he'll take his support with him as a third party candidate and ruin the Republicans chances of winning in '24.
Biden had 81.2 million to Trump's 74.2 million, i;d wager that 7 million votes is a lot of space between the two.
and yes thank you for making the same point i have been making for at least a year that you never agreed with: Trump burning down the GOP when he fails to get the nomination.


We have been round this bush many times before and i'll say the same thing i have said about 15 times that you disagree with : WHEN trump splits the votes after he fails to get the nomination and starts his MAGA party that will affect not only the 2024 Presidential Election,but also Future Senate,Congressional and Gubernatorial races. The GOP is going to implode and it will be WONDERFUL to watch it happen.

We have been around this bush many times as well but this point also bears repeating: There was no Red Wave in the recent Congressional Election. I place this squarely on Trump's shoulders as many of the candidates he backed were beaten,and people are tired of the clown and circus show.
Other than his rabid die hard base The average Republican is SICK of this individual,and are either not voting or voting against Trump;s candidates
 

Babagounj

Strength through joy

You don’t have to be a Team Trump, ‘January 6’ hothead to know that such an indictment would be a brazenly political act, motivated more by coastal-elite animus towards the Bad Orange Man than by concern about a little white lie in Trump’s business accounts. Bragg is a radical Democrat. His loathing of Trump is well known. He’s also notoriously soft on crime, to the fury of many New Yorkers. As the National Review put it, ‘crime is rampant in New York’, in part because ‘Bragg’s default position is leniency and often non-prosecution when it comes to hardened criminals’. The idea that he’s now having sleepless nights over a fib told by Trump seven years ago is preposterous. No, this is ‘bare-naked politics’, in NR’s words.
 
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