THE TRUMP 2024 THREAD

[bbsam]

Is this comment supposed to be a suggestion of what the Conservatives should do to steal an election like the liberals are capable of?
Are you trying to enter our camp?

It’s a challenge. If you can’t show how it can be done, your words are taken with that in mind. Do it with a mock election if you’d like. Find a town of 10,000 voters and show how it’s done.

 

[rickyb]

Quite simply prove that voter fraud is real by doing it on a huge scale. Companies hire programmers all the time to break into their systems to improve them. Do the same thing. Show, don’t tell.

these guys spend more time worrying about voter fraud than they do about big money corrupting elections

It’s a challenge. If you can’t show how it can be done, your words are taken with that in mind. Do it with a mock election if you’d like. Find a town of 10,000 voters and show how it’s done.

at least they protested on january 6. usually they never protest anything, just complain.

 

[MrFedEx]

I've been an election official for more than 20 years and I believe you have been misinformed. First, polling locations are staffed with nearly a dozen randomly assigned elderly people. They are trained how to validate a photo ID, the voters address, obtain a signature and finally distribute a numbered ballot that has been signed by 2 witnesses. So, for your theory to work, a dozen or so people would have to conspire together produce extra live ballots. It's hard enough for two people to keep a secret, now your asking a dozen to keep quiet. Second, polling districts/wards are kept small to ensure an orderly voting process. I believe most locations are designed to have 2,500-3000 registered voters. I saw the largest one was in New Jersey and they had 6k. Now, to swing vote counts your asking multiple polling locations and dozens of workers to conspire. In the 5-7 swing states and/or swing counties, you asking hundreds or thousands of poll workers to conspire together in secrecy. I could also address ballot counts, ballot paper in weights, QR codes, bar codes and watermarks, but that seems like overkill. IMO, it's easier to counterfeit money than votes and ballots.

Of course you’re not telling the Trump truth. None of the usual suspects will believe you.

 

[bacha29]

It doesn’t matter what you or anyone else thinks. When are u going to understand that? Probably 50 out of the 75 million people that voted for trump had their poll watching representatives kicked out of polling places when they had a legal right! To be there. Those results from those places should have been investigated, security tapes looked at and whatever else could be done. What was done? Nothing! 50 million people at least felt like their suspicions weren’t investigated when they saw on tv their poll watching representatives kicked out and cardboard placed over the windows! You cannot do that! That is my proof. I’m not saying I have proof of fraud what I am saying and all the protesters on Jan 6 were saying is that the problems with the election were not fixed or resolved or even looked at!

Take your corroborated evidence of voter fraud , poll watcher illegal expulsion, voter intimidation and all of your other yet to be proven claims claims that can be supported by corroborated EVIDENCE on a level high enough to meet the required burden of proof and ask for a meeting with DOJ and FEC officials whereby you can present them with your evidence.

It' s long past the "put up or shut up" time. But if you have the evidence that can meet the burden of proof to backup all of your claims then you owe it to the American people to bring it forward.....Or get your fellow MAGA together and file a class action of your own. Nobody else is going to do it for you.

And if you fail do so then you have failed your nation so then it becomes shut up time.

 

[Up In Smoke]

Of course you’re not telling the Trump truth. None of the usual suspects will believe you.

I'm an Independent. I have and will vote across party lines. I have made tens of thousands of phone calls and knocked on thousands of doors for candidates of both parties. I currently have 4 signs in my yard for the spring election and they're evenly split. The misinformation about elections is what I was addressing.

 

[bacha29]

I've been an election official for more than 20 years and I believe you have been misinformed. First, polling locations are staffed with nearly a dozen randomly assigned elderly people. They are trained how to validate a photo ID, the voters address, obtain a signature and finally distribute a numbered ballot that has been signed by 2 witnesses. So, for your theory to work, a dozen or so people would have to conspire together produce extra live ballots. It's hard enough for two people to keep a secret, now your asking a dozen to keep quiet. Second, polling districts/wards are kept small to ensure an orderly voting process. I believe most locations are designed to have 2,500-3000 registered voters. I saw the largest one was in New Jersey and they had 6k. Now, to swing vote counts your asking multiple polling locations and dozens of workers to conspire. In the 5-7 swing states and/or swing counties, you asking hundreds or thousands of poll workers to conspire together in secrecy. I could also address ballot counts, ballot paper in weights, QR codes, bar codes and watermarks, but that seems like overkill. IMO, it's easier to counterfeit money than votes and ballots.

Thank you for your clear concise and thorough explanation of how the polls work. In my local precinct just as you have noted it too is staffed by female senior citizens who have done this thankless, complex and poorly compensated job for decades. They are not about to throw away their spotless records for the sake of appeasing a handful of Trumpers and MAGA's who are hell bent on keeping their Dear Leader in power no matter if it destroys the free and fair election system that has severed this country well for centuries.

 

[bacha29]

Correction: "served"

 

[Non liberal]

Prove it.

I just did. 120 million net worth on a 235,000 salary

 

[Non liberal]

Thank you for your clear concise and thorough explanation of how the polls work. In my local precinct just as you have noted it too is staffed by female senior citizens who have done this thankless, complex and poorly compensated job for decades. They are not about to throw away their spotless records for the sake of appeasing a handful of Trumpers and MAGA's who are hell bent on keeping their Dear Leader in power no matter if it destroys the free and fair election system that has severed this country well for centuries.

Lol, spotless records? They don’t even look at your ID. I’ve offered it and they don’t even want to look at it. Goes to show how much you know.

 

[Non liberal]

Trump did not bring back manufacturing, did not beat china, mexico did not pay for the wall, mafe banking system worse, railways worse, maintained all 5 wars

Union rate did not go up

He was terribly corrupt

Lol, dude I’m sorry you’re just not even competent enough for me to talk to. Please don’t respond to me anymore. Thanks.

 

[Next Day Error]

I just did. 120 million net worth on a 235,000 salary

You didn’t prove anything. That’s one income stream. Let’s see details.

 

[Non liberal]

Voted rolls are purged prior to early voting. Deceased voters are removed from voter rolls once a death certificate is ordered. Death certificates are ordered by family members, coroners and/or morticians as part of the end of life procedure. In addition, drivers license, social security and medicare are notified to remove deceased from rolls. If someone votes for a dead person, the multiple systems will kick out the name and an investigation will follow. Lineandinitial provided a site where such evidence has been discovered and pursued.

I know that is how it is supposed to work, but is it actually being done? That is what millions of people want to know.

 

[Non liberal]

Take your corroborated evidence of voter fraud , poll watcher illegal expulsion, voter intimidation and all of your other yet to be proven claims claims that can be supported by corroborated EVIDENCE on a level high enough to meet the required burden of proof and ask for a meeting with DOJ and FEC officials whereby you can present them with your evidence.

It' s long past the "put up or shut up" time. But if you have the evidence that can meet the burden of proof to backup all of your claims then you owe it to the American people to bring it forward.....Or get your fellow MAGA together and file a class action of your own. Nobody else is going to do it for you.

And if you fail do so then you have failed your nation so then it becomes shut up time.

It’s already been done multiple times. Your Libby judges keep dismissing it. The whole system is corrupt. Your own politicians said mail in voting is rife with fraud a few years ago. Am I missing something here? All of a sudden it is the safest most secure way to have an election. Lol what a freaking joke! You people are the most gullible sheep going man.

 

[Up In Smoke]

Thank you for your clear concise and thorough explanation of how the polls work. In my local precinct just as you have noted it too is staffed by female senior citizens who have done this thankless, complex and poorly compensated job for decades. They are not about to throw away their spotless records for the sake of appeasing a handful of Trumpers and MAGA's who are hell bent on keeping their Dear Leader in power no matter if it destroys the free and fair election system that has severed this country well for centuries.

The idea that a county supervisor could just change a vote total is also impossible. The Dominion voting machines produce four paper copies as well as a digital copy to a thumb drive. Two paper copies from each polling location are sent to the party headquarters of each county and the remaining two copies stay on file at the County Courthouse. The digital information is sent via cell signal to the courthouse for same day election results and then all the results are held for recounts and certification.

 

[rickyb]

Lol, dude I’m sorry you’re just not even competent enough for me to talk to. Please don’t respond to me anymore. Thanks.

im too sexy

 

[Up In Smoke]

It’s already been done multiple times. Your Libby judges keep dismissing it. The whole system is corrupt. Your own politicians said mail in voting is rife with fraud a few years ago. Am I missing something here? All of a sudden it is the safest most secure way to have an election. Lol what a freaking joke! You people are the most gullible sheep going man.

Short of someone(s) stealing the original live ballot from your mailbox, how are you justifying your belief. I've had this discussion with dozens of people, but no one has proven to me that it's feasible to do in mass. To be fair, I don't believe I've convinced anybody that the voting system is fool proof either.

 

[bacha29]

Short of someone(s) stealing the original live ballot from your mailbox, how are you justifying your belief. I've had this discussion with dozens of people, but no one has proven to me that it's feasible to do in mass. To be fair, I don't believe I've convinced anybody that the voting system is fool proof either.

I wonder if the Trumpers and MAGA's have any idea as to the complexity and redundancy of America's vote tabulation system.

It's the system that Giuliani and his team foolishly went up against in court . Now they are looking at disbarment .

 

[Up In Smoke]

I wonder if the Trumpers and MAGA's have any idea as to the complexity and redundancy of America's vote tabulation system.

It's the system that Giuliani and his team foolishly went up against in court . Now they are looking at disbarment .

If you question the process, sign up and get a first hand taste. Sitting there for 15 hours will help you to understand the standards.

 

[Non liberal]

Short of someone(s) stealing the original live ballot from your mailbox, how are you justifying your belief. I've had this discussion with dozens of people, but no one has proven to me that it's feasible to do in mass. To be fair, I don't believe I've convinced anybody that the voting system is fool proof either.

There are videos of people dumping hundreds of ballots into ballot boxes. If that’s not worth investigating, what is? Even if they are legit people, that is ballot harvesting, and is illegal.

 

[Lineandinitial]

It’s a challenge. If you can’t show how it can be done, your words are taken with that in mind. Do it with a mock election if you’d like. Find a town of 10,000 voters and show how it’s done.

Who is "you"? Me? Or are you talking in generalities?
Look, you don't show your hand to the opposition, when they have previously demonstrated their capabilities and that there is no depth to which they would sink to to get what they want.

You always speak in such unrealistic terms. Try to suggest some things that are actually reasonable....