THE TRUMP 2024 THREAD

[nWo]

we all work for UPS or retired from them? there is no massive cut to healthcare for us. Sometimes its better to actually look at the details rather than regurgitate the DNC talking points.

there is no massive cut to education instead we are eliminating the middle man that being the department of education. rather than paying a bunch of beaurocrats to run our results down to 40th in the world. the money will go directly to the states.

the increase in military spending is easily attributable to defensive weapons which we should all be thrilled with. There are a lot of bad actors out there with nukes, missles and drones that could otherwise do us harm. part of that defensive spend is for the border. We've all seen the bad actors the previous administration let across our borders and should all be thrilled the border may actually get sealed this time.

and again the post you responded to talked about the real cuts I'm looking forward to through the post budget recissions . those i will be watching to see if they are effective in eliminating government waste.

you my friend are stuck in the mindset that got us 36 trillion in debt. you like your liberal friends think throwing more money into the burn pit somehow makes us better. Our government has proven time and again that they cant effectively manage how they spend our money.

The bill increases the debt. Cutting medicare hurts all of us. Your healthcare costs will increase.

 

[oldngray]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1925391783292182726

 

[Box Ox]

The bill increases the debt. Cutting medicare hurts all of us. Your healthcare costs will increase.

Righties will say the bill doesn't include cuts to Medicare. But here's what Ben Shapiro said about it on his show today:

“There's nothing in the bill that cuts Medicare. Why is the CBO claiming that the bill is going to cut Medicare? Well, because the idea is that it adds so much to the national debt that it would force cuts in Medicare beginning in 2026.

Because it would officially add apparently $2.3 trillion to the deficit over the next 10 years, the Congressional Budget Office projects. That would force budget officials to mandate across-the-board spending cuts over that window that would hit Medicare. The legislation significantly adds to the national debt.

When it exceeds $36.2 trillion, it triggers sequestration or compulsory budget reductions. In that scenario, Medicare cuts would be capped at 4% annually or $490 billion over 10 years. So, again, those reductions, by the way, are not a foregone conclusion.

So when the CBO says Medicare will be cut, that's not a foregone conclusion. In all likelihood, by the way, it won't be. In all likelihood, it would just take out some more debt.”

 

[newfie]

The bill increases the debt.

the estimate is based on a 2.5 percent GDP rate. Trump administration is banking on being able to jack up the GDP with the 10 trillion dollars of new investment. the estimate also does not count in the increased revenue from tariffs. I dont know if they will be successful but I'm thrilled to death that they are actually trying to do something reduce government spending . They're still fighting the swamp and the swamp includes republicans who helped create this mess.

 

[nWo]

 

[newfie]

Righties will say the bill doesn't include cuts to Medicare. But here's what Ben Shapiro said about it on his show today:

“There's nothing in the bill that cuts Medicare. Why is the CBO claiming that the bill is going to cut Medicare? Well, because the idea is that it adds so much to the national debt that it would force cuts in Medicare beginning in 2026.

Because it would officially add apparently $2.3 trillion to the deficit over the next 10 years, the Congressional Budget Office projects. That would force budget officials to mandate across-the-board spending cuts over that window that would hit Medicare. The legislation significantly adds to the national debt.

When it exceeds $36.2 trillion, it triggers sequestration or compulsory budget reductions. In that scenario, Medicare cuts would be capped at 4% annually or $490 billion over 10 years. So, again, those reductions, by the way, are not a foregone conclusion.

So when the CBO says Medicare will be cut, that's not a foregone conclusion. In all likelihood, by the way, it won't be. In all likelihood, it would just take out some more debt.”

califorrnia alone was spending close to 10 billion dollars on illegal aliens through their medicare program. there is a lot of opportunity there to reduce fraud and waste. The DOGE effort to identify that waste is tied up in the courts..

 

[newfie]

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certainly the guy with the beard and sun glasses cant be wrong

 

[Over70irregs]

I live in one of the poorer counties in NC. I'll let ya know in a few months how much food has been taken out of mouths of our recipients

Know a guy from S.C. No joke there.

 

[newfie]

Know a guy from S.C. No joke there.

i know a guy too, who's your guy

 

[newfie]

summary of the house version , subject to change in the senate

Revenue (Tax Cuts)​

• 2017 TCJA Extension: Permanently extends income and estate tax cuts ($4T cost over 10 years).
• No Tax on Tips: Deduction for tips (under $160,000 income, 2025–2028).
• No Tax on Overtime: Deduction for overtime pay (2025–2028).
• Auto Loan Interest Deduction: Up to $10,000 for U.S.-made vehicles (2025–2028).
• SALT Deduction: Cap raised to $40,000, phases out at $500,000 income (permanent).
• Standard Deduction: Increased by $1,000–$2,000 (2025–2028).
• Child Tax Credit: Permanent at $2,000, $2,500 for 2025–2028.
• Social Security Relief: Higher deduction for seniors (under $75,000/$150,000 income, 2025–2028).
• Trump Accounts: $1,000 savings accounts for newborns (2025–2028).
• Other: Enhanced childcare credits, family leave credits, 23% Section 199A deduction (permanent), restored itemized deductions.

Impact: Adds $4.5–$5T to deficits; benefits wealthier households most.

Spending Cuts​

• Medicaid: $700–$880B cut via work requirements, eligibility checks, and ending benefits for undocumented immigrants (7.6–10M lose coverage).
• SNAP: $300B cut with work requirements (~11M lose benefits).
• Student Loans: $330B saved by replacing repayment plans, ending deferments.
• Clean Energy Credits: Phased out (EV, wind/solar, home efficiency), saves tens of billions.
• Other: Ends IRS Direct File, defunds Planned Parenthood.

Impact: Saves $1.5–$1.7T but reduces social safety net.

New Spending​

• Defense: $150B for missile defense, naval expansion, and servicemember benefits.
• Border Security: $100B+ for wall, ICE detention, deportation, and agents.
• FAA Modernization: Funds air traffic control upgrades (cost unspecified).

Fiscal Impact​

• Debt Ceiling: Raised by $4T to cover deficits.
• Deficit: Adds $3.3–$5.3T over 10 years (CBO/CRFB estimates).
• Temporary Measures: Many tax cuts expire in 2028, creating fiscal cliffs.

Notes​

• Controversies: GOP split on SALT; Democrats oppose welfare cuts; fiscal hawks warn of debt.
• Senate Outlook: Faces revisions; needs near-unanimous GOP support.

 

[Appvol]

I live in one of the poorer counties in NC. I'll let ya know in a few months how much food has been taken out of mouths of our recipients

WNC here

 

[tourists24]

WNC here

Yeah you’re in Avery? Swain here

 

[Appvol]

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[Appvol]

Yeah you’re in Avery? Swain here

 

[nWo]

Must take food from the hungry to send billions to Elon Musk. It's the only way to save the country.

 

[tourists24]

My very first bid route was out in Spruce Pine out Hwy 19 and out past the prison and looped back around to 19 through Hanging Rock area. The castle out there was cool

 

[newfie]

Must take food from the hungry to send billions to Elon Musk. It's the only way to save the country.

lol do you have any facts to show that is happening or are you just one of those parrots repeating whatever the dnc tells you to repeat here.

 

[nWo]

Good thing they are ending IRS Direct file. Need to funnel money to H&R Block instead.

 

[nWo]

lol do you have any facts to show that is happening or are you just one of those parrots repeating whatever the dnc tells you to repeat here.

Read the bill buddy. Read it.

 

[newfie]

Read the bill buddy. Read it.

i posted the bill buddy did you read it? I dont know how long you've been around here but cutting and pasting DNC talking points from your actblue webpage to here is not going to work. people actually expect you to step outside the normal political BS and speak like you have formed your own opinion based on facts.