THE TRUMP 2024 THREAD

[Thebrownblob]

Depends on the person. My mother gets SNAP benefits. She can barely walk and no longer drives. About to be 82. My sister and niece bring her groceries but if she didn't have anyone she would greatly benefit from having groceries delivered to her. But definitely able bodied people should be getting their own groceries.

Yeah, I don’t think @BadIdeaGuy was speaking to someone like your mom. That would be perfectly fine and makes sense.

 

[Over70irregs]

Sure that would be OK but more often than not they don’t move forward because in a weird twist the government makes it nearly impossible for them to move forward, and then they just become another person reliant on the government forever.

“If you give a man a fish, you feed him for a day; but if you teach a man to fish, you feed him for a lifetime”

This is a great saying but unfortunately, the government doesn’t want many of these people off the door because they have control of them and the next generation that comes after.

Very true. Poverty is a business.

 

[Thebrownblob]

White collar who make fake BOA accounts. Theft is theft.

Your 100k figure is interesting. How do people pay? What is your plan for long term care if I may ask? We may need a thread for this if it’s possible……

I had to handle my aunt’s estate. She had quite a bit of money from the sale of a home. I wrote a check every month for $14,000 for her care at the place she was staying until her money ran out and then the government stepped in. it’s called the spend down.

 

[Over70irregs]

I had to handle my aunt’s estate. She had quite a bit of money from the sale of a home. I wrote a check every month for $14,000 for her care at the place she was staying until her money ran out and then the government stepped in.

Interesting. I had a friend take over his mothers home in his name to guard her assets. He said she had to be free of assets for 5 years to qualify for state benefits or senior housing. Also you have to get a living trust he said but others would know better than I.

 

[Thebrownblob]

Interesting. I had a friend take over his mothers home in his name to guard her assets. He said she had to be free of assets for 5 years to qualify for state benefits or senior housing. Also you have to get a living trust he said but others would know better than I.

There’s strategies and ways around it, but you have to have that set up in advance. My aunt did not. She was actually not that old, not even 60 but she had advanced COPD and had to have a tracheotomy so the level of care she needed was pretty expensive.

 

[BadIdeaGuy]

Depends on the person. My mother gets SNAP benefits. She can barely walk and no longer drives. About to be 82. My sister and niece bring her groceries but if she didn't have anyone she would greatly benefit from having groceries delivered to her. But definitely able bodied people should be getting their own groceries.

I shouldn’t be paying for services for others that I feel I can’t afford for myself.

That’s where I’m at.

 

[BadIdeaGuy]

White collar who make fake BOA accounts. Theft is theft.

Your 100k figure is interesting. How do people pay? What is your plan for long term care if I may ask? We may need a thread for this if it’s possible……

It’s not theft. It’s just expensive. And since insurance or the government picks up the tab most of the time, there’s no reason to try to make it more efficient.

 

[BadIdeaGuy]

White collar who make fake BOA accounts. Theft is theft.

Your 100k figure is interesting. How do people pay? What is your plan for long term care if I may ask? We may need a thread for this if it’s possible……

My plan? A cohesive family unit, prudent financial planning, and doing whatever it takes to stay out of an institution like that.

 

[Thebrownblob]

My plan? A cohesive family unit, prudent financial planning, and doing whatever it takes to stay out of an institution like that.

Bingo

The government decided a long time ago,they wanted to get rid of the family unit and especially fathers. The government will be your daddy.

 

[Over70irregs]

My plan? A cohesive family unit, prudent financial planning, and doing whatever it takes to stay out of an institution like that.

Majority have hardly no visitors.

 

[oldngray]

Lower income inner city people who steal the change out of desk drawers.

Unless others get involved, you sit in your room until it’s mealtime when you get taken to the frozen meals they’ve warmed up and count the days down till the two when your family show up and pretend they care about you.

Your birthday and Christmas. They’ll show up for as little time as they can, and then these people get to sit there wondering if they’ll see them again in this world.

And last I knew, the full rates where I volunteer for a single room were 100K a year. Almost no capacity, so that’s as good as it gets.

a few of the much more expensive nursing homes are OK but the majority are for the Medicaid people who go there to die.

My sister works in one and she hates the Alzheimer floor. Those patients are out of control and often violent. When she gets scratched she has to hope it doesn't get infected.

 

[vantexan]

I shouldn’t be paying for services for others that I feel I can’t afford for myself.

That’s where I’m at.

And if you can't afford them for yourself but someday find yourself in a situation where you do need them then it's good to have those services available. I understand where you're coming from about how the family has deteriorated to the point that millions lead lonely lives with.no safety net. But that's where we're at and the dog eat dog approach we have to how we live and work for decades needs to be set aside to deal with those truly.in need. It's easy to say they should've planned better but most people these days are not.looking forward to a company paid pension in their old age and many don't make enough to fund a decent retirement. So old age is a constant struggle and with enough deterioration they find themselves not capable anymore to take care of themselves. Certainly you've seen that in nursing homes.

 

[Lineandinitial]

I would change ignorant to informed. That me mentality is NOT reality. How old are you? Life hits hard and true down the line.

No...you are definitiely ignorant; and obnoxious

 

[oldngray]

And if you can't afford them for yourself but someday find yourself in a situation where you do need them then it's good to have those services available. I understand where you're coming from about how the family has deteriorated to the point that millions lead lonely lives with.no safety net. But that's where we're at and the dog eat dog approach we have to how we live and work for decades needs to be set aside to deal with those truly.in need. It's easy to say they should've planned better but most people these days are not.looking forward to a company paid pension in their old age and many don't make enough to fund a decent retirement. So old age is a constant struggle and with enough deterioration they find themselves not capable anymore to take care of themselves. Certainly you've seen that in nursing homes.

My wife's mom was in one of the cheap ones. All she had to keep her warm was a thin blanket so we took her a good comforter. She could press the call button for help and get ignored for hours. Her husband who should have been there for her was too busy carrying on with another woman to visit her.

 

[vantexan]

My wife's mom was in one of the cheap ones. All she had to keep her warm was a thin blanket so we took her a good comforter. She could press the call button for help and get ignored for hours. Her husband who should have been there for her was too busy carrying on with another woman to visit her.

That's truly sad but I think the argument was being made that someone like your mother-in-law should be living with family instead of living in a tax supported facility. Ideally yes but a lot of families aren't equipped to care for someone who needs 24/7 assistance. And a lot of people just don't have anyone else. Poor widows with no children for example. There are no easy answers and the tide of aging Baby Boomers is only going to make things worse.

 

[newfie]

They are STATE Funded!

they are joint state federal . should we stop the fed payments?

Medicaid funding flows as follows:

1. Federal Matching: The federal government provides funds via the Federal Medical Assistance Percentage (FMAP), matching state spending at 50-77.76% based on state income.
2. State Contribution: States cover the rest using their revenue, meeting federal requirements.
3. Funds Disbursed: CMS sends federal funds quarterly to states based on reported Medicaid expenses.
4. State Management: States distribute funds to providers or managed care organizations for services, with flexibility within federal rules.
5. Oversight: CMS audits ensure compliance; misuse may lead to fund recovery.
6. Provider Payment: Funds reach healthcare providers, enabling low- or no-cost services for beneficiaries.

Key Notes: Federal funds cover ~60% of the $912 billion Medicaid budget (2023). States vary in coverage and rates, impacting provider participatio

 

[nWo]

We have a couple carwashers that are close to needing 24/7 care. Still working. Probably go straight from UPS to the nursing home.

 

[Over70irregs]

It’s not theft. It’s just expensive. And since insurance or the government picks up the tab most of the time, there’s no reason to try to make it more efficient.

I wonder how much long term insurance runs?

That's truly sad but I think the argument was being made that someone like your mother-in-law should be living with family instead of living in a tax supported facility. Ideally yes but a lot of families aren't equipped to care for someone who needs 24/7 assistance. And a lot of people just don't have anyone else. Poor widows with no children for example. There are no easy answers and the tide of aging Baby Boomers is only going to make things worse.

i know a place that is going to get filled up in the next year or so. There is going to be a waterfall of people.

 

[newfie]

Shouldn't all this cost cutting reduce the deficit not increase it?

Im thrilled to hear you support DOGE's efforts to do so.

 

[newfie]

Very true. Poverty is a business.

for the leeches that use your misfortune to make a profit