THE TRUMP 2024 THREAD

[rickyb]

They are cowards and will not fight a war straight on. Your supportive of them is troubling. You do not have to support the Israeli government to not support the Iranian government.

They violate “international Law” as much as anyone else and they’re human rights abuse are some of the worst in the world.

they have a right to defend themselves against israeli and us violations of international law

i dont like their govt, however im sure its illegal for you guys to bomb a country calling for regime change.

i know for sure greenwald and celente would say this is iraq war 2.0 meaning hte lies that have led up to it

they are fighting a war straight on that israel started illegally.

 

[rickyb]

They are cowards and will not fight a war straight on. Your supportive of them is troubling. You do not have to support the Israeli government to not support the Iranian government.

They violate “international Law” as much as anyone else and they’re human rights abuse are some of the worst in the world.

ralph nader talks about irans support of proxy wars because we have been hostile to them all this time including over throwing their govt in 1952 or whatever and backing hte brutal dictator, and supporting iraq in the iran iraq war.

 

[Thebrownblob]

they have a right to defend themselves against israeli and us violations of international law

i dont like their govt, however im sure its illegal for you guys to bomb a country calling for regime change.

i know for sure greenwald and celente would say this is iraq war 2.0 meaning hte lies that have led up to it

they are fighting a war straight on that israel started illegally.

Never said they didn’t have a right, but you’re actively cheering for an evil government, which makes you evil.

I’ve never cheered for some of the things that the Israeli government does.

If you think Iran winning any war would make the world a better place you’re insane. Get a grip.

You keep saying illegal this and legal that both of those countries have done plenty of illegal things. But you’re standing squarely on the side of evil simply because you do not like one country..

You’re actively supporting a totalitarian theocracy government that actively suppresses imprisons and murders their citizens.

If you hate the Israeli government and support the Iranian government, you really not much of a freedom fighter.

 

[rickyb]

They are cowards and will not fight a war straight on. Your supportive of them is troubling. You do not have to support the Israeli government to not support the Iranian government.

They violate “international Law” as much as anyone else and they’re human rights abuse are some of the worst in the world.

you gotta admit im consistent

i call out russias illegal war. i call out israel and us illegal war. i support ukraine and irans right to defend themselves. and i encourage diplomacy in all cases. thats how the war will end.

notice how we were lied to in the first week. iran is still attacking israel.

 

[Thebrownblob]

you gotta admit im consistent

i call out russias illegal war. i call out israel and us illegal war. i support ukraine and irans right to defend themselves. and i encourage diplomacy in all cases. thats how the war will end.

notice how we were lied to in the first week. iran is still attacking israel.

Yes, on this issue you’re consistently wrong for supporting either side if you hate one side.

 

[rickyb]

Never said they didn’t have a right, but you’re actively cheering for an evil government, which makes you evil.

I’ve never cheered for some of the things that the Israeli government does.

If you think Iran winning any war would make the world a better place you’re insane. Get a grip.

You keep saying illegal this and legal that both of those countries have done plenty of illegal things. But you’re standing squarely on the side of evil simply because you do not like one country..

You’re actively supporting a totalitarian theocracy government that actively suppresses imprisons and murders their citizens.

If you hate the Israeli government and support the Iranian government, you really not much of a freedom fighter.

i support their right to self defence. i am in favor of regime change in all 3 govts. but not breaking intl law.

israel has wanted war for 30 years. theyve been dreaming of this. they ruined diplomacy.

 

[rickyb]

Yes, on this issue you’re consistently wrong for supporting either side if you hate one side.

so youre saying i should not be supportive of iran or any countries right ot defend itself?

 

[Thebrownblob]

so youre saying i should not be supportive of iran or any countries right ot defend itself?

You clearly are not reading what I’m saying as I specifically said Iran has a right to defend themselves.

I also hope their government gets completely smashed doing so because they’re human rights abuses are extreme.

The Israeli government has their own set of problems.

You cannot say one is evil and the other one is not in this situation if you believe like you do.

You support evil if you support one of them if you stay true to your word.

 

[rickyb]

You clearly are not reading what I’m saying as I specifically said Iran has a right to defend themselves.

I also hope their government gets completely smashed doing so because they’re human rights abuses are extreme.

The Israeli government has their own set of problems.

You cannot say one is evil and the other one is not in this situation if you believe like you do.

You support evil if you support one of them if you stay true to your word.

i think the govt in iran is evil no doubt just not as evil as israel or usa.

when i look at this situation i squarely blame israel and usa. iran also enriched to 60% or whatever and im not sure about that. they shouldve got a nuke and this wouldve been prevented. israel should be buying land in palestine, not killing people for it.

 

[Thebrownblob]

so youre saying i should not be supportive of iran or any countries right ot defend itself?

Ask yourself if you had only two choices of a place to live.

Iran

Or Israel

Which one would you choose?

95% of the social issues you say, you agree with you can only have in Israel. In Iran, you would be dead or in prison.

In some ways, Israel is more liberal than United States.

 

[Thebrownblob]

i think the govt in iran is evil no doubt just not as evil as israel or usa.

when i look at this situation i squarely blame israel and usa. iran also enriched to 60% or whatever and im not sure about that. they shouldve got a nuke and this wouldve been prevented. israel should be buying land in palestine, not killing people for it.

Really you just hate Netanyahu. But Israel is a democratic country and he can be voted out soon, and the whole government can change.


That cannot happen in Iran without regime change and a revolution.

So in essence, you are championing the citizens Iran being forced to live under this tyranny forever. Because they cannot vote their way out of this.

Israel can

I just find it odd that you say you support democracy, but when push comes to shove, you just seem to support the totalitarian government more.

 

[oldngray]

theyre not constantly invading countries and expanding their territory. they came to the negotiations seriously. when they were attacked in 2024, their response was very reasonable it wasnt excessive. they are the ones who got their democracy interfered with in 1950 all the way to 1979.

how many countries has israel bombed in the past 10 years? half a dozen? america has bombed 8 muslim majority countries in 10 years.

Iran is the number 1 supporter of terrorism in the world.

but that must not fit your narrative

 

[Bubblehead]

Yep. This is where those against this will try to use a play on words. The actively building the bomb part was the easy part.. would’ve took just a matter of a few weeks or months. Them enriching the uranium was the hard part and they have pretty much completed all that or had at least.

When do think we will start bombing China and North Korea?

 

[Thebrownblob]

When do think we will start bombing China and North Korea?

I would assume at any time. Although both of those countries seem to have already procured nuclear technology.

Certainly if they truly was international law, somebody would’ve done something about both of those human rights abusing countries. But there is no international law. It’s only in theory.

 

[Darmark7]

When do think we will start bombing China and North Korea?

Nobody did and you now can see where we are with them. Thank god they do not have the ideology that Iran has. You make a good point of where Iran would be in a few years if we hadn’t taken out their nuclear capability.

 

[rickyb]

Ask yourself if you had only two choices of a place to live.

Iran

Or Israel

Which one would you choose?

95% of the social issues you say, you agree with you can only have in Israel. In Iran, you would be dead or in prison.

I think israel is better bc apparently their welfare state is better than america. But they are not european levels of civilization bc their govt is run by extremists and their population has about 75% combined support for ethnic cleansing and genocide.

 

[rickyb]

When do think we will start bombing China and North Korea?

We wont bc they have nukes

 

[rickyb]

Iran is the number 1 supporter of terrorism in the world.

but that must not fit your narrative

America has bombed 8 muslim majoritiy nations last 10 years and 7 in 2016

 

[rickyb]

Really you just hate Netanyahu. But Israel is a democratic country and he can be voted out soon, and the whole government can change.


That cannot happen in Iran without regime change and a revolution.

So in essence, you are championing the citizens Iran being forced to live under this tyranny forever. Because they cannot vote their way out of this.

Israel can

I just find it odd that you say you support democracy, but when push comes to shove, you just seem to support the totalitarian government more.

No there are many other crazy politicians in israel. It is not a democracy.

Bibis been in power a good 15 years now

Iranians can have their own revolution. They clearly dont want their enemies "helping" and its against intl law anyways.

There is no democracy in the middle east

 

[rickyb]

I would assume at any time. Although both of those countries seem to have already procured nuclear technology.

Certainly if they truly was international law, somebody would’ve done something about both of those human rights abusing countries. But there is no international law. It’s only in theory.

And yet theres arrest warrants for bibi and putin