Toilet Facilities and personal integrity.

Discussion in 'UPS Discussions' started by Integrity, Aug 15, 2012.

  1. Integrity

    Integrity Binge Poster

    To All,

    A porter told me he found about 20 drink bottles that were apparently full of urine.

    He said this is a chronic problem, these types of bottles come off the package cars.

    He said they are found not only in the package cars but they are removed from the package cars and left in various places around the facility.

    How disrespectful to oneself to feel so pressured to do this. What a shame!

    Now about personal integrity.

    Please comment on this hypothetical example:

    During your morning PCM your center manager reads an urgent Corporate PCM.

    The PCM reads:

    During your work day when you need to urinate or defecate you are to use the closest available normal non-residential toilet facilities. You are not to urinate or defecate in public and you are not to do so in a UPS vehicle in a drink bottle or other unacceptable secondary container. You are allowed to transport yourself to the closest available normal toilet facilities when needed. We realize that individuals vary significantly in the frequency with which they need to urinate and defecate and when questioned about this the benefit of doubt will always go to the employee with special needs in this area.

    Your center manager laughs after giving this PCM and he says "just keep doing what you have been doing, it works for me. Make sure you don't leave any pee bottles in your truck."

    How would you respond to this with personal integrity?

    Lasted edited by : Aug 15, 2012
  2. superballs63

    superballs63 Well-Known Troll Troll

    If I've got to go, I'm going to go in a bottle. I'll pee in a bottle and dump it out immediately, and I keep it in my bag with me, no pee bottles rolling around the truck for this guy. Anyone who leaves those bottles laying around in the truck for other people to deal with is disgusting.
  3. Integrity

    Integrity Binge Poster


    Based upon the above example you be violating a Corporate Direction.

    Please explain how you reconcile your integrity with this decision.

  4. cosmo1

    cosmo1 Now, a low life jack wagon, and still loving it.


    You must be bored. You are really reaching with this one.

  5. Integrity

    Integrity Binge Poster


    I didn't ask the porter to bring this up to me. I really wish he did not.

    Since he did, my conscience dictates that I put this out for discussion.

    My conscience is satisfied.

  6. worldwide

    worldwide Active Member

    “A clear conscience is the sure sign of a bad memory.”
    ― Mark Twain
  7. moreluck

    moreluck golden ticket member

    People respond and you grill them further......change your screen name to char-broil!!
  8. Integrity

    Integrity Binge Poster


    Just participating in discussion.

    Discussion requires dialogue.

    Instead of discussing the discussion why don't you discuss the topic of the discussion.

    I think your thoughts on the topic would be very beneficial to this weak thread.

  9. moreluck

    moreluck golden ticket member

    Because I use bathrooms. No discussion needed.
  10. cosmo1

    cosmo1 Now, a low life jack wagon, and still loving it.

    ^^^weak thread, indeed!
  11. Integrity

    Integrity Binge Poster


    But we seem to be having one any way.

  12. Integrity

    Integrity Binge Poster


    True. True.

    I appreciate your discussion thread critique.

    Care to participate in the actual topic?

  13. Monkey Butt

    Monkey Butt Dark Prince of Double Standards Staff Member

    This thread seems appropriate for you.

    PS -don't you know how to spell your own name?
  14. Integrity

    Integrity Binge Poster


    Yeah. I know.

    Can you fix that for me?


    Hoaxster fixed it
    Lasted edited by : Aug 15, 2012
  15. Brownslave688

    Brownslave688 You want a toe? I can get you a toe.

    A 6 pack topped off with a bourbon on the rocks.
  16. Integrity

    Integrity Binge Poster


    You're answering for someone else.

    Drinking never worked for me.

    I tried for a long time and it never worked so I gave it up.

  17. Bubblehead

    Bubblehead My Senior Picture

    In my center the directive has gone in a different direction.
    Center managers here are telling drivers that they are supposed to code out all time breaking trace to get to a suitable restroom, as well as the time using the facilities, to their break time.
    It's their contention that using the bathroom is personal time.
    I laugh at them, but unfortunately many of my co-workers are weak and comply.
    Just another case of the company throwing poop against the wall to see what will stick.
  18. superballs63

    superballs63 Well-Known Troll Troll

    I have no problem violating corporate directions. If I followed all corporate directions, I would never finish any of the routes I run
  19. Indecisi0n

    Indecisi0n Well-Known Member

    I pee in sinks.
  20. cino321

    cino321 Active Member

    Lol nice play on words :).