Trump's First 100 Days

newfie

Well-Known Member
We'll see. There's a lot of interesting dynamics left to come between a Trump led republican party and the populist electorate that put him in the presidency. Will be interesting to see if Paul Ryan and others quickly lose all their debt concerns going forward .

time will tell. but there are provisions in the plan that show he plans to curtail government spending.
 

rod

Retired 22 years
I'm still waiting for his tax return.


There are so many tax loop holes having his tax returns would be useless. I hate all these loopholes but as long as they are legal there isn't anything that can be done to stop people from using them. He would be a fool not to take advantage of them. Every tax season you hear of someone calling the IRS for tax info and getting 10 different answers to the same question. The whole income tax system needs to be trashed and a flat tax used. Don't even get me started on those people who get a tax refund back and haven't paid anything into it.
 

newfie

Well-Known Member
But that's not the Trump that people voted for.

if you listened to his speech's and read his postings it definitely is. The guy spoke to reducing the deficit and to managing expenses and renegotiating the interest on the debt. You did have to invest some time listening to him speak and reading his postings.

For example many people heard the media snippets and thought he was advocating a full scale trade war. If you really delve into what he puts out there he is actually speaking to actions that could possibly open our ability to trade our products unfettered. If we are able to increase our exports then that would certainly help our economy, GDP and decrease our deficit as a result.

China devaluing their currency helps them cheapen the cost of their imports and made our exports more expensive. If he locks in commitments and is able to trim these schenanigans then our exports increase significantly to one of the largest markets in the world.

So yes if you narrow your focus to simply spend more tax less then you can make that argument. if you look at the whole package there is a lot of possibilities here that would help us economically.
 

Catatonic

Nine Lives
We'll see. There's a lot of interesting dynamics left to come between a Trump led republican party and the populist electorate that put him in the presidency. Will be interesting to see if Paul Ryan and others quickly lose all their debt concerns going forward .
I hope not.
The debt will be Obama's legacy.
 

newfie

Well-Known Member
I'm sure there are differences of opinion about that in the party.

Even if Trump had lost he would have been no less then a Co-broker of leadership in the republican party Due to his being the leader of the republican rebellion. Those who back stabbed him during the elections now find their selves on the outside having to beg and crawl their way back in.

You can hear the tone with the media changing now. No longer can they completely trash him , they now have to give him the respect of the position even though they secretly despise him.
 

Catatonic

Nine Lives
that's gone. elections over. Trump is the power broker in the republican party now.
Hardly yet ... He is on a short leash by the Senate and house leaders ... both Republican.

Trump is not really a Republican ... RINO at best and a dis-satisfied Democrat probably.

It is going to be an interesting 4 years (or 8 most likely).
 

oldngray

nowhere special
Hardly yet ... He is on a short leash by the Senate and house leaders ... both Republican.

Trump is not really a Republican ... RINO at best and a dis-satisfied Democrat probably.

It is going to be an interesting 4 years (or 8 most likely).

More a wild card closer to a traditional Democrat than the more socialist direction that party has shifted. Not a RINO. Those dominate the never Trumpers who never wanted him to win and wanted to preserve the status quo. That group were stunned and groveled a bit to Trump after he won but they will soon revert to form.
 

bbsam

Moderator
Staff member
Even if Trump had lost he would have been no less then a Co-broker of leadership in the republican party Due to his being the leader of the republican rebellion. Those who back stabbed him during the elections now find their selves on the outside having to beg and crawl their way back in.

You can hear the tone with the media changing now. No longer can they completely trash him , they now have to give him the respect of the position even though they secretly despise him.
I'm sure that is what Trump believes. That the fight is over, he won, and they all have to do what he says.

You do see how wrong that is going to prove, don't you ?
 

bbsam

Moderator
Staff member
Like any good politician.
At this point, one has to admit he is a superlative politician.
I think he will use those same skills to smooth over all the fuss over what he said to get elected.
But how does he keep the popular support then that he will need to keep the House and Senate Republicans from crucify him? All Trump's victory did was further empower his republican foes with legislative power.
 

Catatonic

Nine Lives
But how does he keep the popular support then that he will need to keep the House and Senate Republicans from crucify him? All Trump's victory did was further empower his republican foes with legislative power.
And the House and Senate need Trump to pass any new law or repeal a current one.
 

newfie

Well-Known Member
Hardly yet ... He is on a short leash by the Senate and house leaders ... both Republican.

Trump is not really a Republican ... RINO at best and a dis-satisfied Democrat probably.

It is going to be an interesting 4 years (or 8 most likely).

really? who have you ever seen put trump on any kind of leash? Certainly not any of the weak kneed politicians that fought his election.
This guy screwed up his campaign in every way imaginable and still won the presidency.
You guys have been rejecting his power and getting surprised time and time again.

Who in the republican party has anywhere near the power that Trump holds right now?

Certainly not Ryan he'll be lucky to hold on to his speaker job after back stabbing trump.

I cant think of any other single person that holds the cards in Trumps hand. Can you?

I do agree he is technically A Rino. But Rino is generally associated with a different breed then Trump. The McCain's and Graham types.
 

Catatonic

Nine Lives
really? who have you ever seen put trump on any kind of leash? Certainly not any of the weak kneed politicians that fought his election.
This guy screwed up his campaign in every way imaginable and still won the presidency.
You guys have been rejecting his power and getting surprised time and time again.

Who in the republican party has anywhere near the power that Trump holds right now?

Certainly not Ryan he'll be lucky to hold on to his speaker job after back stabbing trump.

I cant think of any other single person that holds the cards in Trumps hand. Can you?

I do agree he is technically A Rino. But Rino is generally associated with a different breed then Trump. The McCain's and Graham types.
Trump has little power now ... we can judge when he becomes Prez in a couple months.
 
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