US 🇺🇸 Tariff China 🇨🇳 are we in a weaker position?

Over70irregs

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you're in a completely different universe.

the jews here didnt do anything to the palastinians there. they should be able to go to school without being threatened
I believe it was the companies attachment to the schools that have involvement with the skirmishes. I could be mistaken though.
 

Over70irregs

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he does not need it.
for once we have a president with a strong belief system .
the ones in the past simply took polls , found out what you believed then told you they believed the same while doing the opposite.
You could have a point there. All I know is this says it all. I mentioned before that we should have invested more in Africa just because of the growth factor but no one wanted to hear it.
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newfie

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You could have a point there. All I know is this says it all. I mentioned before that we should have invested more in Africa just because of the growth factor but no one wanted to hear it.
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you know Biden shut down mining for climate , as a president your policy has to have balance . you cant sacrifice one need to do an overkill on another

 

newfie

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You could have a point there. All I know is this says it all. I mentioned before that we should have invested more in Africa just because of the growth factor but no one wanted to hear it.
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and to that point the biggest problem may be the 4 year presidency. our government does not set long term objectives and a plan to achieve them . everything is short sighted. I think we might actually agree on this one
 

vantexan

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You could have a point there. All I know is this says it all. I mentioned before that we should have invested more in Africa just because of the growth factor but no one wanted to hear it.
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But wait a minute. The U.S. still has more than half of China's manufacturing output. Yet everyone says we don't have manufacturing capacity. We have tens of thousands of shuttered factories that could be retooled and up and running. We aren't looking to make everything the Chinese make but we do need to make things that are absolutely essential if China shuts us out. Medicines, steel, auto parts, computer chips and other electronic components. And China needs to open their market up.
 

newfie

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Chinese make but we do need to make things that are absolutely essential if China shuts us out. Medicines, steel, auto parts, computer chips and other electronic components. And China needs to open their market up.
china's trying to teach us that lesson right now . we should listen
 

Over70irregs

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I hate to say it, but between Asians and Africans if you want a focused, hard working culture to do your manufacturing then I'd have to go with Asians.
They have infrastructure and skilled tooling labor. But you need growth and consumers empowered to grow united for the first time in history. Africa has land and youth beyond anyone on the planet. It’s happening
 

vantexan

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They have infrastructure and skilled tooling labor. But you need growth and consumers empowered to grow united for the first time in history. Africa has land and youth beyond anyone on the planet. It’s happening
They also have a very fractured, tribal history. And a lot of conflict between Muslims and Christians. And a long history of strong men taking for themselves. It would be Herculean straightening that continent out.
 

MyTripisCut

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and to that point the biggest problem may be the 4 year presidency. our government does not set long term objectives and a plan to achieve them . everything is short sighted. I think we might actually agree on this one
So we live in the greatest nation on earth and possibly the greatest empire in human history and you think the 4 year presidency is flawed? Let me guess, you want Donny for the rest of his life?
 

Over70irregs

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They also have a very fractured, tribal history. And a lot of conflict between Muslims and Christians. And a long history of strong men taking for themselves. It would be Herculean straightening that continent out.
For such a big country they have a money system problem. That’s all it is. Remember the guy that tried to unite them was taken out. That’s the reason why they don’t make it. It’s fractured by us and other European countries. Notice China doesn’t destabilize their government but invests for future. Our method is 💀. We have to adapt

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Fred's Myth

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So we live in the greatest nation on earth and possibly the greatest empire in human history and you think the 4 year presidency is flawed? Let me guess, you want Donny for the rest of his life?
You really should crawl out of the nutshell you reside in, and maybe you'll discover that not everything mentioned in reference to the U.S. presidency is Trump related. The fact that you do is proof that your TDS is probably terminal.
 

vantexan

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For such a big country they have a money system problem. That’s all it is. Remember the guy that tried to unite them was taken out. That’s the reason why they don’t make it. It’s fractured by us and other European countries. Notice China doesn’t destabilize their government but invests for future. Our method is 💀. We have to adapt

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What does this chart prove? That we stopped communist insurgencies? That we fought against Middle East terrorism? African piracy? A lot of this didn't involve troops. No, we aren't perfect. And we have done some stupid things. But overall most of the above was justifiable.

And there are few African countries on there. And China's investment comes with strings attached. I don't know why you're so enamored with Africa but to get it up and going will likely take trillions of dollars and a huge sea change in cultural values.
 
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