Browndriver5
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I really felt like UPS would always dominate Fed Ex but im starting to second guess my optimism. I hope we figure something out because they are pulling pretty close to jumping us.
Well I can now say I was wrong
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Catatonic
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Unless it was during a downturn in which UPS outperformed FedEx.
UPSClerkGirl
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Pretty easy to outperform when you pay your drivers peanuts and "contract" out your work.
rod
Retired 22 years
STFXG
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What is confusing about it? FedEx Ground is faster than UPS Ground from point A to point B. I thought that was pretty common knowledge. Trains slow UPS down.
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rod
Retired 22 years
So a "lane" is anything from point A to point B. Never heard it called that. What part of the sticks are you from?
STFXG
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We have maps showing transit times and all the shipping lanes in our network. The hub and spoke system is pretty impressive. Adding buildings all over the country to continue to speed up the system. Ground has been building the network pretty aggressively the last 5-6 years. Still no where near as large as UPS. I believe you guys still have 3x more trucks on the ground. Which explains the need for trains.
I'm in the west. And yes, I deliver to the sticks.
I'm in the west. And yes, I deliver to the sticks.
Returntosender
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A retired driver said years ago UPS VP's jumped to FED EX about several years ago.
FED EX just raised their dividend to .25
FED EX just raised their dividend to .25
rod
Retired 22 years
We have maps showing transit times and all the shipping lanes in our network. The hub and spoke system is pretty impressive. Adding buildings all over the country to continue to speed up the system. Ground has been building the network pretty aggressively the last 5-6 years. Still no where near as large as UPS. I believe you guys still have 3x more trucks on the ground. Which explains the need for trains.
I'm in the west. And yes, I deliver to the sticks.
I'm no longer one of the "you guys" (just ask upstate). I quit caring how my stuff was shipped when I retired. All I care about is that its as fast as possible (even if its ground) and it gets to me in one piece. I order a lot of stuff and would say the majority of it (if its small) l comes USPS-with Fedex Ground second then UPS last. If it is a larger item FedEx Ground usually brings it. UPS has maps with transit times also but I don't think they call them lanes--anyone know?
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STFXG
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We (Ground) have lost a significant amount of volume to SmartPost. Most of our trucks go out with around 80% of the volume we did a few years ago and the truck is still full. Lots of oversized stuff. We also used to get paid a premium for oversized packages, which we no longer do. New updates are supposed to route some of that SmartPost volume back for delivery when we are already going there. Same idea as what UPS does with SurePost.
We are getting killed with oversized though. FedEx can undercut UPS on price with those, take a bigger profit, and pay us the same as they do for an envelope.
We are getting killed with oversized though. FedEx can undercut UPS on price with those, take a bigger profit, and pay us the same as they do for an envelope.
Mugarolla
Light 'em up!
A lane is a major city to a major city. Usually from hub to hub.
Chicago to Charlotte.
Louisville to Detroit.
Memphis to St. Louis.
Toledo to Boston.
About 10 years ago, UPS pulled a bunch of trailers off the train coming from Chicago to Charlotte because FedEx was beating us by a day in this lane. It added quite a few feeder runs.
ManInBrown
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Winner. Ding Ding Ding. FedEx stock is always going to outperform ours. The pay is horrific. That's a huge factor.
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