Will the open borders crowd follow the new CDC Guidelines ?

[Babagounj]

CDC urges Americans to 'avoid all travel' to Mexico after the country surpasses 1.1M COVID-19 cases with a 9.5% fatally rate - the second worst in the world - as US airlines see increased demand for winter travel to the nation​

• Mexico has surpassed more than 1.11 million confirmed cases of coronavirus and reported over 105,000 deaths - the fourth highest death toll in the world
• Only the United States, Brazil, and India have reported more deaths than Mexico
• The country’s actual case and death tally is believed to be much higher partly because of low testing levels compared to other nations
• Mexico also has the second-highest case fatality rate per every 100,000 residents in the world at 9.5 percent, with only Yemen reporting higher
• The CDC posted an update to its website on November 21 raising its travel warning the Mexico to level 4, its highest designation
• Further, in a Monday statement, the head of the World Health Organization said the country was ‘in bad shape’ in its battle against the virus

 

[vantexan]

CDC urges Americans to 'avoid all travel' to Mexico after the country surpasses 1.1M COVID-19 cases with a 9.5% fatally rate - the second worst in the world - as US airlines see increased demand for winter travel to the nation​

• Mexico has surpassed more than 1.11 million confirmed cases of coronavirus and reported over 105,000 deaths - the fourth highest death toll in the world
• Only the United States, Brazil, and India have reported more deaths than Mexico
• The country’s actual case and death tally is believed to be much higher partly because of low testing levels compared to other nations
• Mexico also has the second-highest case fatality rate per every 100,000 residents in the world at 9.5 percent, with only Yemen reporting higher
• The CDC posted an update to its website on November 21 raising its travel warning the Mexico to level 4, its highest designation
• Further, in a Monday statement, the head of the World Health Organization said the country was ‘in bad shape’ in its battle against the virus

About a decade or so ago Mexico passed the U.S. as the world's fattest nation. Diabetes is a serious problem. I'm on the border now and it's amazing how many obese people are here. They love their sugar and high fat foods.

 

[zubenelgenubi]

CDC urges Americans to 'avoid all travel' to Mexico after the country surpasses 1.1M COVID-19 cases with a 9.5% fatally rate - the second worst in the world - as US airlines see increased demand for winter travel to the nation​

• Mexico has surpassed more than 1.11 million confirmed cases of coronavirus and reported over 105,000 deaths - the fourth highest death toll in the world
• Only the United States, Brazil, and India have reported more deaths than Mexico
• The country’s actual case and death tally is believed to be much higher partly because of low testing levels compared to other nations
• Mexico also has the second-highest case fatality rate per every 100,000 residents in the world at 9.5 percent, with only Yemen reporting higher
• The CDC posted an update to its website on November 21 raising its travel warning the Mexico to level 4, its highest designation
• Further, in a Monday statement, the head of the World Health Organization said the country was ‘in bad shape’ in its battle against the virus

There's some issues with the math there. It would be about 83 deaths per 100,000, not 9.5%, It's .083%. As for case fatality rate, the 9.5% is more accurate, based on known cases. But, as is stated in this information, the tests are not as available in Mexico. If the cfr in Mexico were to be more in line with most other places, they probably have had over 10 million cases that were never tested.

What we will see, by the end of the pandemic, is that cases and death percentages are going to be about even most places. I've said several times that one of the biggest issues for fatality rates is demographics. The areas that have the highest populations of vulnerable people will largely have the highest death counts. All this obsession over which states and countries are doing best or worst is a massive waste of time and effort.

Maybe cracking down until the vaccines roll out will show some improvement in outcome, but the countries that have done that are only able to do so because the rest of the world is not. They will rely heavily on foreign aid to keep their economies from completely falling apart. That's just not a strategy the whole world can follow.

 

[Babagounj]

The point was that there are caravans heading north thru Mexico.
Will Mexico provide them with a COVID test or will the idiot liberals allow them to enter the country without one.
Thus deleting all the anti-virus protections already in place and producing a third wave of outbreaks.

 

[over9five]

idiot liberals

I think you know the answer...

 

[newfie]

The point was that there are caravans heading north thru Mexico.
Will Mexico provide them with a COVID test or will the idiot liberals allow them to enter the country without one.
Thus deleting all the anti-virus protections already in place and producing a third wave of outbreaks.

thank god trump built that wall.

 

[Babagounj]

What we really need is a wall around Washington, DC.

 

[newfie]

What we really need is a wall around Washington, DC.

is it too much to get one around San fran too?

 

[Serf]

This is where covid resides, in that historically comparative category of "minor crisis". It needs addressing, but does it justify Government intrusion in people's lives, as would be the case with a nation wide vaccination mandate that the installed President supports? Would Americans who refused the vaccine be charged with a crime and imprisoned? Hearing Joe Biden speak, it sure sounds like that's the end game.

 

[DriveInDriveOut]

This is where covid resides, in that historically comparative category of "minor crisis". It needs addressing, but does it justify Government intrusion in people's lives, as would be the case with a nation wide vaccination mandate that the installed President supports? Would Americans who refused the vaccine be charged with a crime and imprisoned? Hearing Joe Biden speak, it sure sounds like that's the end game.

Wouldn't be surprised to see denial of certain services without submission to vaccination.

Hell, people will do a lot for free stuff. Want free medical care, education....... How bout some 'stimulus' money?

Would you be willing to get a Covid vaccine in exchange for a $1,500 stimulus check? How one bold proposal would work

 

[zubenelgenubi]

Wouldn't be surprised to see denial of certain services without submission to vaccination.

Hell, people will do a lot for free stuff. Want free medical care, education....... How bout some 'stimulus' money?

Would you be willing to get a Covid vaccine in exchange for a $1,500 stimulus check? How one bold proposal would work

I say we all agree to hold out for more. Don't take the vaccine for less than 50k, student loan or mortgage forgiveness. It's only fair. Smh.

Congress arguing over how much to spend is like a bankrupt couple arguing over whether to buy the Lamborghini or the Ferrari. And Delaney's idea is yet another perfect example of idiot politicians believing that resources are endless and that you can solve any problem by throwing enough money at it.

 

[Wally]

Want to worry about illegals having health concerns? Worry more about tuberculosis. Many of them have it and spread it. Since they lurk in the shadows, they go unchecked-untreated.

 

[fishtm2001]

thank god trump built that wall.

How much new wall, exactly?

 

[DriveInDriveOut]

How much new wall, exactly?

 

[newfie]

How much new wall, exactly?

are there any liberals that know how to use google?

 

[Old Man Jingles]

Wouldn't be surprised to see denial of certain services without submission to vaccination.

You mean at The Mustang Ranch?

 

[Old Man Jingles]

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How much can they get done in the next 6 weeks?

 

[BrownFlush]

What we really need is a wall around Washington, DC.

No, we need to nuke that place, right after Iran.

 

[DriveInDriveOut]

How much can they get done in the next 6 weeks?

Laser turrets and murder hornet cannons are being installed as we speak.