Winning!

[oldngray]

You are aware that Pfizer accepted no funds from Operation Warp Speed? No, of course you're not.

Wrong.

The Times quoted Kathrin Jansen, the head of vaccine development at Pfizer as saying, “We have never taken money from the US government or from anyone,” and then went on to claim Pfizer was never a part of Operation Warp Speed. This is simply not true.

As NPR reported in July, the government reached a deal for nearly two billion dollars to help distribute the vaccine. Pfizer’s own press release in July announced that the U.S. government placed an initial order of 100 million doses for $1.95 billion. No money went specifically into the vaccine’s research and development, but Pfizer absolutely did take government money, and was forced to walk back Jansen’s statement.

Media Lies About Pfizer Partnership With Trump Administration's Operation Warp Speed

Reports that Pfizer's new vaccine was not a part of Operation Warp Speed as simply a lie.

thefederalist.com

 

[fishtm2001]

No, but they hurried to be first because of it. We have two vaccines with more soon. Just another Trump administration success story.

No they just knew an incompetent administration when they saw one. Case in point, millions of doses sitting in warehouses.

 

[fishtm2001]

Wrong.

The Times quoted Kathrin Jansen, the head of vaccine development at Pfizer as saying, “We have never taken money from the US government or from anyone,” and then went on to claim Pfizer was never a part of Operation Warp Speed. This is simply not true.

As NPR reported in July, the government reached a deal for nearly two billion dollars to help distribute the vaccine. Pfizer’s own press release in July announced that the U.S. government placed an initial order of 100 million doses for $1.95 billion. No money went specifically into the vaccine’s research and development, but Pfizer absolutely did take government money, and was forced to walk back Jansen’s statement.

Media Lies About Pfizer Partnership With Trump Administration's Operation Warp Speed

Reports that Pfizer's new vaccine was not a part of Operation Warp Speed as simply a lie.

thefederalist.com

my favorite part; "No money went specifically into the vaccine’s research and development"

 

[vantexan]

No they just knew an incompetent administration when they saw one. Case in point, millions of doses sitting in warehouses.

Not happy about that either. Those doses if not administered soon will go bad. Let's see if Biden fulfills his promise of 100 million doses administered in his first 109 days. I hope he does.

 

[vantexan]

my favorite part; "No money went specifically into the vaccine’s research and development"

As if that is somehow Trump's doing. Sheesh.

 

[oldngray]

my favorite part; "No money went specifically into the vaccine’s research and development"

And they did have to admit taking government money and being part of Warp Speed.

Contrary to your claims.

 

[fishtm2001]

my favorite part; "No money went specifically into the vaccine’s research and development"

New York, NY, December 17, 2020 – Pfizer Inc. (NYSE: PFE) today released the following statement to address public comments that allege there are issues in the production and distribution of the company’s COVID-19 vaccine: “Pfizer is not having any production issues with our COVID-19 vaccine, and no shipments containing the vaccine are on hold or delayed. This week, we successfully shipped all 2.9 million doses that we were asked to ship by the U.S. Government to the locations specified by them. We have millions more doses sitting in our warehouse but, as of now, we have not received any shipment instructions for additional doses.

 

[oldngray]

Not happy about that either. Those doses if not administered soon will go bad. Let's see if Biden fulfills his promise of 100 million doses administered in his first 109 days. I hope he does.

A lot of the distribution is done by states. Blame incompetent liberal governors. Not Trump.

 

[vantexan]

A lot of the distribution is done by states. Blame incompetent liberal governors. Not Trump.

And no doubt some of them slowed up distribution to make Trump look bad.

 

[fishtm2001]

And they did have to admit taking government money and being part of Warp Speed.

Contrary to your claims.

Moderna took 2.5 billion from us taxpayers and their doses are the most expensive. Winning?

 

[fishtm2001]

As if that is somehow Trump's doing. Sheesh.

That was a big part of Operation Warp Speed's mission. Sheesh.

 

[vantexan]

That was a big part of Operation Warp Speed's mission. Sheesh.

If they had gotten the full twenty million done by the end of the year you'd still be critical.

 

[Box Ox]

McConnell can still gum up the works.

 

[PT Car Washer]

A lot of the distribution is done by states. Blame incompetent liberal governors. Not Trump.

Another Q Anon conspiracy theory.

 

[fishtm2001]

If they had gotten the full twenty million done by the end of the year you'd still be critical.

But they could not pull it off; just another example of their general incompetence.

 

[vantexan]

But they could not pull it off; just another example of their general incompetence.

And if it had been a Democrat administration you'd look the other way. If Biden doesn't get 100 million in his first hundred days are you going to rip him a new one? Because you are sure going to crow about how great he is if he does.

 

[bbsam]

Only the kung flu and illegal voting let Confused Joe win. But lets not focus on that, rather, lets focus on tearing down American and rebuilding it as an socialist utopia. Go big and proud!

It might be time for your side to start working on your messaging. That crap lost this year. It won’t do better in four years. Why? Because this isn’t going to be a socialist country no matter how much fear mongering you wanna do.

 

[vantexan]

It might be time for your side to start working on your messaging. That crap lost this year. It won’t do better in four years. Why? Because this isn’t going to be a socialist country no matter how much fear mongering you wanna do.

Your candidates were tripping over each other in their eagerness to show how far Left they were in the primary debates. If it's all for show to get power you're going to have some very disappointed constituents. It's not full blown socialism I'm worried about as much as implementing serious controls on our freedoms in the name of climate change. With climate change an excuse to implement those controls. There are very serious people out there talking about a global reset in how everything is done. Not a conspiracy theory, it's been openly talked about at the U.N., the World Economic Forum, and by well known people like Bill Gates and the Canadian Premier among others. Essentially the world's "elites" would own and control everything. The rest of us would get a monthly payment to rent what we need from them. With robotics and AI developing the way they are it's a matter of time before the government will have to take care of a very large percentage of our population anyways. The lock downs in places like California haven't stopped the virus but have destroyed a lot of small businesses. We may be seeing the beginnings of an effort to make most of the population dependent on government as a means to implement the "Great Reset." Google that, it's not some conspiracy theory.

 

[Wally]

It might be time for your side to start working on your messaging. That crap lost this year. It won’t do better in four years. Why? Because this isn’t going to be a socialist country no matter how much fear mongering you wanna do.

We are sliding down that slope, giving up freedom along the way.

 

[bbsam]

We are sliding down that slope, giving up freedom along the way.

I suppose if you favor Trumplike “rule of law”, the yes. And thank God!