Write it down!

Discussion in 'UPS Discussions' started by BUCN85, Mar 14, 2019.

  1. Faceplanted

    Faceplanted Well-Known Member

    Or you can simple answer I don’t recall exactly, but I was working safety.

    We are stupid truck drivers. They think I don’t know how to run my own route and just to follow Orion so I’m an idiot who can’t remember anything now.
  2. Netsua 3:16

    Netsua 3:16 Active Member

    As far as I'm concerned, they DESERVE to slug it. They deserve light dispatches and a break from production harassment. I'd like to see them more protected from that bs in a future contract. One guy I work with has over 30 years in at age 60 something, can barely get out of his car in the morning, comes in and pounds out 110 stops every damn day, never seen him take a layoff. And gets talked to every time he's a half hour over. Makes me sick every time I see it
    It takes incredible discipline and conviction to last in this environment for so long. When I gotta go take stops off the old guys I envision it as a passing of the torch; for decades they've helped their brothers out even when they didn't want to and now I'm doing the same, and it's important to me that I'm respectful and shut up and listen to their advice even if it's incoherent old man babbling
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  3. BigBrown87

    BigBrown87 If it’s brown, it’s going down

    30 minutes over and getting harassed by management? We got old timers going over an hr and never blink and eye and walk right to their trucks no questions asked. Article 37 has language that protects old timers from being dispatched the same workload as a runner gunner that's 25. I help the lady next to me all the time never once do I complain just grab what I have to and say have a good night.
  4. The Driver

    The Driver I drive.

    I'm seriously thinking about getting a notebook after the week I've had...
  5. Netsua 3:16

    Netsua 3:16 Active Member

    I can't describe the conversations, but everybody moans when they hear or see his name called because it's common knowledge that it's about his production. And while he doesn't ever bonus he's actually pretty solid between like 15 and 50 clicks over.
    I just wish they would leave him the f alone completely
    Now when I do his route when he's on vacation, it's funny because I purposefully try to go slow so they don't jack up the stop count on him or whatever consequences might come of it. Plus I know I have plenty of leeway to not get noticed production wise; I take 2 real 10 minute breaks instead of scattering little mini cigarette breaks throughout the day like I usually do, sort the CRAP outta the car even when unnecessary, walk stuff off that I could have pulled right up to.
    No matter what I do, I bonus that thing. Except for once when I was 7 clicks over. And I definetely move fast, hustle, but I ain't no friggin runner. If they give me fast stuff, I scratch. If they load me up with slow stuff in the woods, it's a completely different job and I'm much slower.
  6. Indecisi0n

    Indecisi0n Well-Known Member

    Because we enjoy making management look stupid when we get called into the office since we know our rights. Go pick on the noobs or look like an idiot in front of your boss .
  7. PASinterference

    PASinterference Yes, I know I'm working late.

    Such great wisdom from a 20 something preloader. Don't worry, young buck, the wear and tear adds up. You'll see soon enough. Trust me.
  8. JustDeliverIt

    JustDeliverIt Active Member

    I write down my punch in and punch out so I can check it against what is actually on the computer. It is rarely off since I've been driving, but when I was working preload they screwed up things all the time. Supervisors would go in and change stuff so the numbers looked better, but I would always have a record of what it should be.
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  9. RolloTony Brown Town

    RolloTony Brown Town Active Member

    Very smart to keep some notes. Typically the response is “I don’t remember.” If you have notes then questions are stress free because you can tell exactly what happened.
  10. vvv

    vvv Active Member

    Always have to laugh and do a head scratch when I see a post like this.

    Brother, if I ran only 30 minutes over they'd be having pizza daily for the center and wondering if I'm mentally stable.
    2 hours over is a very good day for me, and I easily push either side of 3 if I'm heavier on bulk and the stops jump some, perhaps the weather sucks, or in the past if their mouths moved too much.
  11. Wally

    Wally BrownCafe Innovator & King of Puns

    Do the job right and you never have to keep notes. Will you go through some OJS'ing? Sure, but then again, do the normal job and you have nothing to worry about.
  12. Wally

    Wally BrownCafe Innovator & King of Puns

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  13. RolloTony Brown Town

    RolloTony Brown Town Active Member

    Stuff like this wouldn’t happen if they did time studies... numbers don’t mean much when they’re 10-15 years old lol
  14. Wally

    Wally BrownCafe Innovator & King of Puns

    We both know their time studies would be wacked. In Clarksville every load is stop for stop!
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  15. RolloTony Brown Town

    RolloTony Brown Town Active Member

    If you’re familiar with your area and have been there for a long time take note of new businesses, different traffic patterns, new intersections and new traffic signals and stop signs, New apartment buildings that take lots of time. Basically anything new should be accounted for. Time studies used to be part of the deal every year, but because they couldn’t get enough of them done they just straight up stopped doing them in 2006! Some areas the metrics still work. Others it’s not even worth talking about. Not to mention the delivery game has changed, from a more 50/50 split between com:resi stops. Less stops more pieces. Now we’re delivering the same amount of pieces with way more stops and there’s tons of 25/75 splits between com:resi.
  16. BigUnionGuy

    BigUnionGuy Got the T-Shirt

    What is a "sense" of urgency and how do you quantify it.... can it be measured ?

    Is it like a 6th sense or extra sensory perception ?

    It's just a made up UPS term.... that is just a subjective opinion.

    That's why Article 37 cover's it.

    Damn Union.


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  17. Austin.Was.My.Hero

    Austin.Was.My.Hero quod erat demonstrandum

    Close, but no cigar. You're off by 20+ years, junior.
  18. eats packages

    eats packages Why won't the door close?

    I'm sure they would still be whack but updates to the trace and alligning the majority of rdo/odo to an updated sequence chart would make some serious gains.
  19. Dracula

    Dracula Package Car is cake compared to this...

    Because we're entitled, Jack!
  20. Dracula

    Dracula Package Car is cake compared to this...

    That's better than making something up, but it's demoralizing to them when they ask you about something from a week ago, expecting a, "Ugh, ugh, ugh," and you give them an exact answer.

    That is the power of the book.