Sometimes yes sometimes no. They no the long time employees know better, than to pit up with their crap.
They try to scare the going ones,to test them out.
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They try to scare the going ones,to test them out.
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This is my favorite line in your post. When my FT prints out the report on hours used on my sort he doesn't care if you're a minute late. The L is next to your name. You're late. If you are a minute or two late everyday you know what you do? You leave a minute or two early every day.
You're pretty much asking "How do I avoid getting written up while not changing anything?" That's basically asking for special treatment. Be an adult, show up to work, do your job, go home. It isn't that hard.
You know why that is? Those high seniority folks have proven themselves. The lower seniority people you are trying to prevent a pattern. Once someone gets set in that mindset that they can do whatever they want they will take advantage of it until the day they leave or you have to fire them.
Good post.
Who wrote it for you?
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PiedmontSteward
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You cannot be fired for a non-cardinal sin infraction (stealing, drinking on the job, 3 day no-call no show etc.) without first receiving a warning letter and then at least serving a suspension.
That being said, even if you're 5 seconds late you're showing up on an area report. If your hub has major attendance issues (like mine does) then your supervisor will document it. If it continues to be documented, you'll receive progressive discipline (warning letter, suspension, working termination) and eventually get canned.
You should probably stop banging out of work (we have sick days in my area, some areas have option days, etc.) without a valid medical reason (doctor's note and/or FMLA) and start showing up on time.
Not in my center the people that are always in the office are 20 + year drivers. They are always getting talk to about performance since nothing can be done to them they just keep soing the same thing over and over.
Speaking of lower seniority people we have a handful of PT moving up to Driver position starting next week. Was talking to my SUP Friday night and they said that they aren't going to allow the slacker to get by anymore. In the past they have given some drivers a gift in letting them qualify and now they are paying the price.
These new guys qualifying is a big joke
I agree, and will get to work on time from now on. Ever since I started there it seems that my FT sees that even coming to work is a god send. In my outbound, we have major attendance issues. A lot of people don't show up to work every day. On the bulk line, where I work, it's not uncommon to grab people from the loads (if they don't call off), to help us out. So, that's why I never felt that coming in a minute or two late was all that bad. I have come in late and my supervisors actually thanked me for coming in. That's why I'm confused about all this.
I understand that coming in late is coming in late, but in the three years I've been there, I have never been reprimanded for anything. No one has ever spoke to me about anything regarding a write up. I have had two FT's and they both were lenient to the point of thanking people for coming in rather than saying, "Don't do it again". It's just kind of odd that everyone is telling me how 1 minute late could get me sent home when in my outbound 1 minute late is a "Hey, thanks for coming in."
I'm not trying to pat myself on the back, but me coming in a minute or two late doesn't mean I'm not a good worker. I'm a very good employee regardless what any of you people think
. But, before everyone gets worked up, I will be on time every day now. I don't trust my FT's leniency anymore. A union steward never did these mass write ups and next time I won't have to worry about it.
I understand that coming in late is coming in late, but in the three years I've been there, I have never been reprimanded for anything. No one has ever spoke to me about anything regarding a write up. I have had two FT's and they both were lenient to the point of thanking people for coming in rather than saying, "Don't do it again". It's just kind of odd that everyone is telling me how 1 minute late could get me sent home when in my outbound 1 minute late is a "Hey, thanks for coming in."
I'm not trying to pat myself on the back, but me coming in a minute or two late doesn't mean I'm not a good worker. I'm a very good employee regardless what any of you people think
. But, before everyone gets worked up, I will be on time every day now. I don't trust my FT's leniency anymore. A union steward never did these mass write ups and next time I won't have to worry about it.Tell me about they let a guy slide by a last year because he has 3 or 4 kids. He sucks always over allowed. He hit a car this winter and didn't notify anyone got 2 weeks off. The only thing good is that with Orion now they aren't sending people to help him.
I like how they get the brand new trucks and have a short route.
PiedmontSteward
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I agree, and will get to work on time from now on. Ever since I started there it seems that my FT sees that even coming to work is a god send. In my outbound, we have major attendance issues. A lot of people don't show up to work every day. On the bulk line, where I work, it's not uncommon to grab people from the loads (if they don't call off), to help us out. So, that's why I never felt that coming in a minute or two late was all that bad. I have come in late and my supervisors actually thanked me for coming in. That's why I'm confused about all this.
I understand that coming in late is coming in late, but in the three years I've been there, I have never been reprimanded for anything. No one has ever spoke to me about anything regarding a write up. I have had two FT's and they both were lenient to the point of thanking people for coming in rather than saying, "Don't do it again". It's just kind of odd that everyone is telling me how 1 minute late could get me sent home when in my outbound 1 minute late is a "Hey, thanks for coming in."
I'm not trying to pat myself on the back, but me coming in a minute or two late doesn't mean I'm not a good worker. I'm a very good employee regardless what any of you people think
These things tend to slide until there's other performance issues coming out of a sort/facility. If there's ever a drop in PPH or a spike in service failures, etc. then watch the hammer fall. Once that happens, they get put under a microscope and business managers are then forced to sit on weekly district conference calls on attendance and every minor infraction gets documented.
It's good that you've resolved to go ahead and fix your attendance, as once they start hitting our members on it, it gets really ugly.
PT Car Washer
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I have a feeling UPS will be "thinning the herd" this summer. Have had a few helping out on Saturdays and they have needed help with 25 stops with 3 1/2 hours of delivery time in a metro area.
Not sure why they are spending all that money to hire and train them????
PT Car Washer
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It got UPS through Peak season. Now they are sitting out working PT waiting for their big break at FT driving. Talking FT seniority drivers with less then a year in.
These driver's are quitting. Can't pay bills on hopes and dreams.
PT Car Washer
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Only one so far in my building. The rest are just trying to get by. Keep being told in May vacations will kick in and you will have more work then you want. In the mean time more routes are being cut.
And they wonder why we file 9.5. Grievances.
PT Car Washer
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Oh yes. Even the drivers who want 12 hours everyday are starting to file.
Shonuff
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If you think 1-2 minutes late is any different than 30-40 minutes late, you are very misinformed. In UPS land, late is late. If management was to pull your attendance record, the only indicators are late or on time. There is no grace period, so if for example we take a look at a years worth of attendance....Let's say for example you only come in late once a week, that's 52 "x's" on that sheet (x=late), which doesn't look pretty. There are no indicators showing how late you were on any of those days. You also mentioned that the supes would stick up for you. Your going to have to let go of that Disneyland mentality, cause when
hits the fan, the Supe is 99% likely to throw you under the bus, no matter how nice you think that Supe may be. That's just reality. Clean up that attendance record, come in on time, and TRUST NO ONE. Do that, and you'll have a job for life.
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No you really aren't if you can follow a rule as simple as showing up on time. YOU may think you're a good worker. But as a sup you can be a rockstar, I don't really give a crap if you can't get your butt to work when you're supposed to be there. Everyone else showed up, why can't you?I'm not trying to pat myself on the back, but me coming in a minute or two late doesn't mean I'm not a good worker. I'm a very good employee regardless what any of you people think
That's actually a good point I never really thought about. On PCIS it only shows the L, not how late it was.
