Year round helpers?

Discussion in 'UPS Discussions' started by Tough Guy, Jun 18, 2013.

  1. Tough Guy

    Tough Guy Active Member

    I've seen in a few posts here and there that some were saying their hubs use helpers almost years round. That would be phenomenal if they did that in my hub.

    I know the company is super stingy when it comes to extra time, hours, people, etc. But, there are a lot of trucks that looks the same year round, and you would think it's peak season if you saw them even on a normal day. I think there could be some kind of system they could come up with where the driver had an option of using a helper, or if a trip has x amount of volume they're eligible for a helper, or something to that effect.

    Also would be good on-road delivery experience for any prospective future drivers.
  2. cosmo1

    cosmo1 Now, a low life jack wagon, and still loving it.

    Once again, would someone pass the popcorn?

    This will be a long show.:laughing:
  3. Gumby

    Gumby *

    It would also be a way to screw future full timers out of a job!!!!!!!!
  4. Tough Guy

    Tough Guy Active Member

    Not sure I understand. How would that screw someone out of a job? Some hubs apparently do this year round from what I've read on here
  5. Gumby

    Gumby *

    More low paying helper jobs. Less Full time package car drivers!!
  6. Tough Guy

    Tough Guy Active Member

    well i meant more in the way of insiders getting the shifts, not outsiders of course. The one guy I saw post about it, I think he said he was in a chicago hub, said they get their inside rates over there. Not the piddly 8.50 they give during peak
  7. Tough Guy

    Tough Guy Active Member

    and to further clarify, I'm not suggesting every route would even need a helper. It could even be a seniority incentive. If you reach x amount of years, you have the option to use a helper. Or again, x amount of volume is eligible for helper. I'm sure something reasonable could be agreed upon
  8. Gumby

    Gumby *

    NO HELPERS!!!!!!!!!!!Put a route in and give somebody else a good job and a future
  9. Tough Guy

    Tough Guy Active Member

    But how are some hubs doing it and not others? And if you still have several years to go with seniority, the helper hours can help you make ends meet now, in the present.
  10. Gumby

    Gumby *

    And screw you out of a better future!
  11. TooTechie

    TooTechie Geek in Brown

    I can see how helpers can speed some things up, but when I have an on-car with me, they slow me down, get in my way, etc so I would think it would be the same with a helper at least to some extent.
  12. Bagels

    Bagels Family Leave Fridays!!!

    UPS has long sought to use helpers year-round and the Teamsters have opposed it. In 2007, the Teamsters hyped the fact that they were successful in striking down UPS's proposal. The New York City area is the only region I'm aware of that the Teamsters gave this leniency to.

    My supplement allows UPS to use helpers year-round in instances of unusual volume fluctuation. My building often abuses this and my BA doesn't have much of a problem in them doing so. For example, we have several PTers scheduled to help in the malls soon. The contract also says these jobs go to the highest seniority PT Teamsters, but UPS will use management favorites and the kids of several managers -- who aren't employees -- to do the work. And my BA doesn't have much of a problem in them doing so. Fighting it without support from the BA is fruitless, and places a target on my back, so why bother?
  13. Johney

    Johney Well-Known Member

    The problem is every route would get a helper. I'm sorry but I don't want 300 stops or more per day year around.
  14. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    The OP does have a good point; however, it is painfully obvious that he has a thing to two to learn about how the company really works. Helpers would make it easier but the only solution is to add more routes.
  15. Johney

    Johney Well-Known Member

    There are a couple guys in my building who get helpers from Oct. to Jan. every year. That's what is allowed per the contract in my building. management will add helpers to more routes as the weeks progress until 95%+ have helpers in Dec. The few guys who get helpers early are COOKED by Jan. They will build up these routes by cutting others or minimum dispatching close routes.
  16. Indecisi0n

    Indecisi0n Well-Known Member

    Worst idea ever.
  17. retired2000

    retired2000 Active Member

    No helpers add drivers
  18. Ya here in the SW they have language in our rider that peak season helpers can work oct. 15- jan. 15th since right after December ended last year we had a huge influx of volume the second week of January and every driver got a runner for a week so that was almost 200 pters making $32 and $47hr ot for 6 working days, I came home with $2000 that week but that's why the company pushed the union to let that happen in the current TA. But as everyone else has said the answer is more routes and drivers not over dispatching and giving everyone a runner.
  19. Buck Fifty

    Buck Fifty New Member

    If it ain't the heat, its the stupidity. No offense of course.
  20. didyousheetit

    didyousheetit Active Member

    Scott Davis?