City Driver
Well-Known Member
nope but im a city driver workin on the dock
upstate NY i dont think you get it. you shouldnt really judge without all the facts. is your life being disrupted right now?
What exactly do you mean? Are you saying they're given easy jobs, or are you saying their seniority allows them to bid easy jobs.
Thank you, some one finally said it!! Feeder drivers and package car drivers are just going to have to suck it up until things get back to normal. Leave the drama at the gate and just do the job until its time to go home.If a feeder run is cut and the driver is working inside? There is no seniority for any specific load or area. That's in the contract. WAD
Thank you, some one finally said it!! Feeder drivers and package car drivers are just going to have to suck it up until things get back to normal. Leave the drama at the gate and just do the job until its time to go home.
What exactly do you mean? Are you saying they're given easy jobs, or are you saying their seniority allows them to bid easy jobs.
At the time of layoff you have to state your intentions,(options being 2 sorts, 1 sort or layoff). He decided to take two sorts. You are held to that for the duration of layoff from feeder dept. This driver couldn't do the job and the more they pushed the more he pushed back, eventually resulting in a hearing. After the hearing about his hub performance the feeder manager brought an infraction that he had had in feeders out. The environment was already a hostile environment towards this driver so we couldn't make any deals with labor and they walked him out. When he was brought to hearing the company's stance had not changed. His option were to resign or go to Columbus and risk dicharge for dishonesty. He resigned.
Yes the BA was present and advised him that he probably would not win if he took it to state panel. The feeder manager saw an opportunity to put a feather in his cap because the guy was having problems and had labor upset with him. The feeder manager could have presented this at a different time but decided that this was an opportune time to make himself look good with hub management and labor. If the current situation was different and we weren't oversaturated with drivers the guy might have had a chance. We have lost so many runs and the extra board is so over inflated that they don't care if they lose anyone. The guy resigned to avoid the possibility of having a "discharged for dishonesty" on his record.I have serious concerns with the case as quoted above:
1) was the BA present?
2) NEVER resign. If you do you have absolutely no hope. At least there is a chance at panel. I know of one case where the FD had an "off the clock" termination and was offered to resign. He immediately called the BA and was told not to resign or sign anything. He got his job back. I don't think there was back pay. He worked long enough to get covered by the new 6 billion dollar pension "early" contract and THEN handed in his resignation letter.
3) whatever happened to the language in the contract that talks about, "....the age and physical condition of the employee shall be taken into consideration."? I could be wrong but I think that language is still in the contract.
4) why did the feeder manager feel the need to muddy the waters with another separate and unrelated charge? If the company fired evryone who was ever dishonest then a large % of the ties, suits and pants suits would be walked out the gate. The BA should have separated the two charges and addressed the timeliness of the dishonesty charge.
This case has a very strong appearance of a "witch hunt".
This case also bolsters some posters contentions that the company will slowly start getting rid of the older employees so as to replace them with young runners and gunners making 40% less per hour and only one week vacation. "Witch hunts" have a strange way of getting twisted around in the company's favor. Been there, done that.