Buying FedEx Routes

Golffreak

New Member
looking at buying routes with 12 trucks from an owner of 15 years. Early indications are numbers look good but I'm nervous that the overlap has not occurred yet. I'm told the current terminal can't handle H/D and Ground. FedEx could build another terminal in several years at which time the overlap would come in to play. I've heard good and bad if the overlap has not occurred. Some say its not a big issue and when it happens the route owners usually work things out. I see many positive posts on owning routes, what are the cons??
 

It will be fine

Well-Known Member
looking at buying routes with 12 trucks from an owner of 15 years. Early indications are numbers look good but I'm nervous that the overlap has not occurred yet. I'm told the current terminal can't handle H/D and Ground. FedEx could build another terminal in several years at which time the overlap would come in to play. I've heard good and bad if the overlap has not occurred. Some say its not a big issue and when it happens the route owners usually work things out. I see many positive posts on owning routes, what are the cons??
Are you looking at Ground or HD?
 

It will be fine

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HD cons would be 7 day operation. Is the current contract on the e-commerce rate yet? That will be a big blow to revenue if it hasn’t happened yet. If it’s in a stand alone HD building I would just start transitioning the fleet to vehicles that can handle Ground when overlap happens. It’s a matter when not if they’ll build a colocation.
 

Golffreak

New Member
Clarification - Today its advertised as HD and Ground however, it sounds like once they build a new terminal (not sure when) they will separate HD and Ground.
 

It will be fine

Well-Known Member
Clarification - Today its advertised as HD and Ground however, it sounds like once they build a new terminal (not sure when) they will separate HD and Ground.
That would be very unusual. The entire focus of FedEx is on increasing stop density. I’d be very surprised if they built a new building that was a standalone HD or Ground terminal.
 

dmac1

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Will you be paying much more than the value of the vehicles plus 1 year of your net income? Also, from a record keeping/tax standpoint, you may be better off buying the truck and the business in two separate transactions. Depreciation deduction can be a big part of your expenses. Fedex WILL want to renegotiate when your contract expires and isn't required to even offer you another contract, and if HD and Ground are going to be combined, and Fedex has a love affair with the ground contractor, and you are HD, you may lose out. You are NOT buying a business- you are buying trucks and the right to service a contract without any guaranty of terms. If the contract is good for 2-3 more years, it is better than if it expires in 6 months. You might be able to get the seller to get the contracted extended with fedex before you buy the servicing rights.
 

Golffreak

New Member
The selling broker (who claims to also own routes himself) said the business is exempt from the overlap since the terminal is HD only. He said the overlap applies to co-location terminals. That said, there is a chance they build a bigger terminal and both HD and Ground operate out of one terminal.
 

It will be fine

Well-Known Member
The selling broker (who claims to also own routes himself) said the business is exempt from the overlap since the terminal is HD only. He said the overlap applies to co-location terminals. That said, there is a chance they build a bigger terminal and both HD and Ground operate out of one terminal.
They’ll build a colo eventually. Might be 2 years might be 10. They won’t tell you until it gets close. Is the contract on e-commerce rates yet?
 

bacha29

Well-Known Member
Bacha repeating his same story in 5-4-3-2-1.....
dmac 1 simply is repeating what I've said all along. Nothing's binding. No access to due process. You equity is locked up and is only unlocked through a transaction that meets with X approval and places it's interests first. You're a servant of your Fedex overlord and simply an administrator of a supply chain that can be cut off off any time for any reason or no reason at all. As dmac1 stated......it is NOT a business.
 

bacha29

Well-Known Member
Wait till this crisis is over Amazon will use this excess capacity to crush FedEx Ground. I would be selling routes too.
Notice something going on lately? While the rest of the world's economy is dead in the water Amazon kept right on going and it's stock was never impacted to the extent that others were. In addition this AM the IMF reported that the downturn could be as bad as the Great Depression and Goldman Sachs reported that the downturn could be as much as 4 times worse than the Great Recession. Yet Bezos keeps right on going like it never even happened.
 

UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)

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Notice something going on lately? While the rest of the world's economy is dead in the water Amazon kept right on going and it's stock was never impacted to the extent that others were. In addition this AM the IMF reported that the downturn could be as bad as the Great Depression and Goldman Sachs reported that the downturn could be as much as 4 times worse than the Great Recession. Yet Bezos keeps right on going like it never even happened.

...in fact, there is a disclaimer at the top of the Amazon home page stating that they would be giving preference to "essential" items until this crisis blows over...
 

bacha29

Well-Known Member
I think Amazon has already allegedly killed Ground 3 or 4 times already.
Guess who's stock just hit a new high? But granted, we'll be just fine and the markets will do well until the free federal cash runs out then balance sheets will rule the day.
 

Cactus

Just telling it like it is
I think Amazon has already allegedly killed Ground 3 or 4 times already.
Yeah, we know you're a big Ground fanboy. Yet you wouldn't ever consider being in a contractor position or get your hands dirty in the real world delivering Ground packages.
 
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