Can the company force me to work past 14 hours?

[twotwofour]

I think I stumbled upon a major company loophole that UPS could use to avoid a strike.

Let's say I return to my center at 11pm July 31 after working 14 hours, but I'm told to not punch out by a manager. Do I have to keep working? Can UPS keep me in the building to sort and load/unload trailers while everyone who has punched out is on strike?
I know I need 10 hours off duty to drive, but nothing prevents UPS from working me inside the hub until the strike ends.

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

I think I stumbled upon a major company loophole that UPS could use to avoid a strike.

Let's say I return to my center at 11pm July 31 after working 14 hours, but I'm told to not punch out by a manager. Do I have to keep working? Can UPS keep me in the building to sort and load/unload trailers while everyone who has punched out is on strike?
I know I need 10 hours off duty to drive, but nothing prevents UPS from working me inside the hub until the strike ends.

Is this a serious question?

 

[MECH-II]

@Dot

 

[Babagounj]

I think I stumbled upon a major company loophole that UPS could use to avoid a strike.

Let's say I return to my center at 11pm July 31 after working 14 hours, but I'm told to not punch out by a manager. Do I have to keep working? Can UPS keep me in the building to sort and load/unload trailers while everyone who has punched out is on strike?
I know I need 10 hours off duty to drive, but nothing prevents UPS from working me inside the hub until the strike ends.

Work as directed.

 

[DriverNerd]

Yes in that instance you would have to continue working until midnight.

 

[upschuck]

There will be no striking teamsters at 11pm on July 31st.


I guess you are asking this because you are not in the union?

 

[twotwofour]

There will be no striking teamsters at 11pm on July 31st.


I guess you are asking this because you are not in the union?

I'm just trying to predict a worst case scenario, can management keep you working through July 31>Aug 1 by changing start times of that week or tell drivers to unload a trailer after they have come back to the station.
If feeders have to follow orders through July31>Aug 1, why can't they force us too?

 

[Just A UPS Guy]

I think I stumbled upon a major company loophole that UPS could use to avoid a strike.

Let's say I return to my center at 11pm July 31 after working 14 hours, but I'm told to not punch out by a manager. Do I have to keep working? Can UPS keep me in the building to sort and load/unload trailers while everyone who has punched out is on strike?
I know I need 10 hours off duty to drive, but nothing prevents UPS from working me inside the hub until the strike ends.

What state do you work in?

 

[Pullman Brown]

I think I stumbled upon a major company loophole that UPS could use to avoid a strike.

Let's say I return to my center at 11pm July 31 after working 14 hours, but I'm told to not punch out by a manager. Do I have to keep working? Can UPS keep me in the building to sort and load/unload trailers while everyone who has punched out is on strike?
I know I need 10 hours off duty to drive, but nothing prevents UPS from working me inside the hub until the strike ends.

 

[Just A UPS Guy]

There will be no striking teamsters at 11pm on July 31st.

Depends on where you are, we will be on strike at 9 P.M.

 

[Pullman Brown]

I think I stumbled upon a major company loophole that UPS could use to avoid a strike.

Let's say I return to my center at 11pm July 31 after working 14 hours, but I'm told to not punch out by a manager. Do I have to keep working? Can UPS keep me in the building to sort and load/unload trailers while everyone who has punched out is on strike?
I know I need 10 hours off duty to drive, but nothing prevents UPS from working me inside the hub until the strike ends.

Yeah, are they offering you a bed, shower, food supplies, etc while you stay and the strike is over?

 

[upschuck]

Depends on where you are, we will be on strike at 9 P.M.

That is an interesting question, since you are still under contract until Aug 1st, do you go out before the contract expires? In 97 they called it on the weekend, so this didn't really apply.

 

[burrheadd]

I think I stumbled upon a major company loophole that UPS could use to avoid a strike.

Let's say I return to my center at 11pm July 31 after working 14 hours, but I'm told to not punch out by a manager. Do I have to keep working? Can UPS keep me in the building to sort and load/unload trailers while everyone who has punched out is on strike?
I know I need 10 hours off duty to drive, but nothing prevents UPS from working me inside the hub until the strike ends.

Put the drugs down

 

[upschuck]

Put the drugs down

You're one to talk

 

[Just A UPS Guy]

That is an interesting question, since you are still under contract until Aug 1st, do you go out before the contract expires? In 97 they called it on the weekend, so this didn't really apply.

Aug 1, 2023 ET

 

[burrheadd]

You're one to talk

That’s medicine

 

[Brownwind]

I think I stumbled upon a major company loophole that UPS could use to avoid a strike.

Let's say I return to my center at 11pm July 31 after working 14 hours, but I'm told to not punch out by a manager. Do I have to keep working? Can UPS keep me in the building to sort and load/unload trailers while everyone who has punched out is on strike?
I know I need 10 hours off duty to drive, but nothing prevents UPS from working me inside the hub until the strike ends.

What local are you?

 

[upschuck]

Aug 1, 2023 ET

It doesn't say that, but I guess labor law may specify that.

 

[textat3]

yourself and see what they say.

 

[Just A UPS Guy]

It doesn't say that, but I guess labor law may specify that.

"It's a single contract, it can only have one expiration" is how it was explained to me. A couple months ago I was talking with an ABF old-timer who I deliver to and he asked how it was going. Told him I was pretty sure we were walking and he brought it up. He said that's how they did it out here in the 80s and 90s.

To be clear, it's my presumption that it will work this way, it makes the most sense to me.