Carlos Rocha vs. FedEx

Discussion in 'FedEx Discussions' started by RTURNSONLY, Nov 1, 2012.

  1. RTURNSONLY

    RTURNSONLY Member

    Mucho very interesting...

    [video]http://www.courthousenews.com/2012/11/01/51870.htm[/video]
     
  2. vantexan

    vantexan Well-Known Member

    If all that is true then I'm extremely glad I'm at Express, such as it is.
     
  3. RTURNSONLY

    RTURNSONLY Member

    You know van, I thought the same thing after I read it. The pasture is not always greener at the other side of the fence..
     
  4. bbsam

    bbsam Moderator Staff Member

    Wow. If I thought any of that were true, I'd hate working here.
     
  5. vantexan

    vantexan Well-Known Member

    A law firm thought there was enough truth to go forward with a lawsuit.
     
  6. bbsam

    bbsam Moderator Staff Member

    You know better than that. There have been alot of law firms who have seen the same thing, went forward and lost.
     
  7. Delivery Drone

    Delivery Drone New Member

    Its all true was a cont for 8yrs. Glad I am out of that fuped co. I was always told its your buisness yea , What a joke
     
  8. vantexan

    vantexan Well-Known Member

    But your point was that none of it is true. Apparently professionals thought it had merit so must be true to a point. I've told you all kinds of things that have happened to me as a courier. Some of it I went to lawyers about. They just shrugged. FedEx gets away with a lot because they know they can. But there are things that can put them in legal jeopardy such as managers sleeping with employees. If caught the managers are shown the door. Screwing the employees gets swept under the rug unless there's actual screwing going on. In the case of Mr. Rocha though there appeared to be screwing of the financial kind, with signed contracts involved. He's got a lot more going for him than the average Express courier who's manager lied to him about this or that.
     
  9. bbsam

    bbsam Moderator Staff Member

    None of the above has been my experience. And remember, the threshold is not lack of control but degree.
     
  10. vantexan

    vantexan Well-Known Member

    So none of it is true if you haven't experienced it? I've heard a lot about "the Chicago way" in the last 4 years. Think it's possible some bad eggs overstepped their bounds?
     
  11. bbsam

    bbsam Moderator Staff Member

    Of course it's possible. In eight to ten years we should hear what the court says. But the suit seems to suggest systematic, widespread abuse. That would need even more plaintiffs.
     
  12. hypo hanna

    hypo hanna Well-Known Member

    Probably not. Lets assume for the sake of argument what he claims is true. He is deep in the hole financially and dragging his family down with him. FedEx lawyers know this and most likely will make it clear they plan to drag it out as long as they can unless he signs a nondisclosure agreement. It's a common corporate tactic.
     
  13. DOWNTRODDEN IN TEXAS

    DOWNTRODDEN IN TEXAS Active Member

    "We will vigorously defend our position in a court of law....FedEx Legal
     
  14. bbsam

    bbsam Moderator Staff Member

    Exactly. And if he has the resources to ride it out, Fedex can afford to settle out of court without admitting fault and make him go away.
     
  15. bbsam

    bbsam Moderator Staff Member

    And they win more than they lose.
     
  16. vantexan

    vantexan Well-Known Member

    Why did FedEx go to the ISP model? Because they knew what they were doing wouldn't hold up in court. The ISP is the culmination of trial and error(no pun intended). But you have to figure some got chewed up in the process, and if some Ground mgrs acted inappropriately then some contractors may have a basis for a suit. Charging the company with racketeering under the RICO act sounds like grandstanding but some of it sounds very possible.
     
  17. hypo hanna

    hypo hanna Well-Known Member

    Funny thing is 15 or 20 years ago I would have called BS on a story like this. With today's management I see it as plausible.
     
  18. thedownhillEXPRESS

    thedownhillEXPRESS Well-Known Member

    Nice post....
     
  19. Cactus

    Cactus Just telling it like it is

    Show us the stats.
     
  20. bbsam

    bbsam Moderator Staff Member

    I don't doubt that some contractors viewed their position like this. I don't doubt that some management did as well. Proving systematic colusion and outright breach of contract in court is going to be expensive and time consuming.