Caught on camera: UPS Driver kicks dog.

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  1. TheKid99

    TheKid99 Active Member

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  2. 2 hrs over allowed

    2 hrs over allowed Upstate follower

    Fine line between protecting yourself or get bit. The bigger problem is the physical contact.
     
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  3. scratch

    scratch Least Best Moderator Staff Member

    He may have been bit by the dog before. But pushing a customer???
     
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  4. Shifting Contents

    Shifting Contents Most Help Needed

    The only thing that he did wrong was touch the hippie.


    I thought it was a woman at first
     
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  5. TheKid99

    TheKid99 Active Member



    Look at the comments everyone want the driver fired
     
  6. Jackburton

    Jackburton Gone Fish'n

    I'm usually on the side of the driver but it's pretty obvious that dog wasn't doing anything wrong, even later in the video it was waging it's tail. The drivers reaction to the owner/customer is deplorable. If I was just going by what I see in this video that driver needs to be taken out of service before he hurts someone/something.
     
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  7. 2 hrs over allowed

    2 hrs over allowed Upstate follower

    Doesn't really look like a kick. I wouldn't want to try to explain the near ass kicking the customer almost received.
     
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  8. trickpony1

    trickpony1 Well-Known Member

    What is the driver supposed to do when the guy runs up on him in an aggressive manner?
     
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  9. bbsam

    bbsam Moderator Staff Member

    Yep. Big, big no-no. Always walk away.
     
  10. bbsam

    bbsam Moderator Staff Member

    Walk away.
     
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  11. Jackburton

    Jackburton Gone Fish'n

    If I was to act the way he did at every threat I've had from a customer I would have never made book.
     
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  12. 2 hrs over allowed

    2 hrs over allowed Upstate follower

    I was bit 3 weeks ago by a little ankle biting bastard. The owner pretty much denied her dog biting me until I showed her the blood running down the back of my leg. I'm 100 yards from the truck. I start walking back down the driveway and the dog is coming at me again. I calmly turn around and tell her to get your dog or its getting punted. Your choice. She chose to get her dog.
     
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  13. SCV good to go sir.

    SCV good to go sir. Active Member

    I feel for the driver, that's a bad situation to be in but I think he was bit overboard. Most of those little dogs will back off if you step towards them. I've held out the diad ready to backhand the little :censored2:s if they get too close. At that point, once the customer sees that you're going to defend yourself against their dog, they will finally understand the concept of "sense of urgency" and get their :censored2:ing dog. As long as you don't hit the dog, most customers are apologetic. Once you hit it, you've opened up a can of worms.
     
  14. TooTechie

    TooTechie Geek in Brown

    Wife and I just got in a fight over this one. I played devil's advocate and said the dog was charging at him and we couldn't tell what knowledge the driver had or didn't have...Guy is gonna lose his job for being the first to push the person in the video though.

    I've stared down growling snapping pitbulls and rottweilers before and never been bitten. The two dogs that bit me were yippers like that one. Training is to put package in between you and the dog and if no package is available and worst case scenario use diad as last line of defense. If I were right next to the back of the truck like that I would have probably just jumped into the back of the truck and crouched with the diad ready to knock it into next week, but it's easy to monday morning quarterback. Also sucks you can see how friendly the dog was after the fact.

    Brothers and sisters remember there are cameras all over the place now. Act as if you're always being recorded.
     
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  15. FrigidFTSup

    FrigidFTSup Resident Suit

    If someone kicked my dog I'd do the same thing. Totally unwarranted IMO.
     
  16. PiedmontSteward

    PiedmontSteward RTW-4-Less

    He might have been OK until he got physical with the customer. I'd be pretty surprised to see this guy come back.
     
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  17. brownmonster

    brownmonster Man of Great Wisdom

    The tap to the dog wasn't much but the pushing of the person. Not good.
     
  18. clean hairy

    clean hairy Well-Known Member

    2 points.
    1) he coulda used the hand truck as a barrier between himself and the dog.
    2) Is there not a leash law? I thought most every city has a leash law, if so, the dog owner would be 100% accountable for this happening.
     
  19. Sleeve_meet_Heart

    Sleeve_meet_Heart making the unreadable unreadabler

    Yeah...I could see if it were self-defense, but he clearly pushed him without any real physical contact before that.
     
  20. Doohickie

    Doohickie New Member

    If you watch the dog approach you can see it was friendly BEFORE the fact. Ears up, tail up, wagging. It just wanted to say hi. And if the driver was so afraid of the dog, why does he so utterly ignore it once the owner shows up? He suddenly doesn't see the dog as a threat at all even as it circles around him.

    And while the owner and the driver were obviously arguing, it was the driver that clearly initiated the contact, shoving the owner.

    I ride a bicycle quite a bit and this has been a rough week- I've had 5 different loose dogs come after me; one ran out between two parked cars to come after me; I didn't see it until just before it ran into my bike. Most of the owners didn't give a flip that their dog was loose and causing trouble, they just made excuses for them, almost as if it was *my* fault that they didn't properly restrain their dogs. Yes, there's a leash law in my city but I'm not going to kick a dog just because the owner is an idiot.

    Just tonight a pit bull came after me and because I was going uphill I couldn't outrun it. So I got off my bike and..... let it lick me as I pet it.

    This driver was a real jerk. No reason that I could see to kick the dog. Even if he claimed he was afraid it would attack, that's clearly not the case since he went on to ignore it and not see it as a threat seconds after kicking it, even though it was running all around him.
     
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