Corporate America screwing us

vantexan

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If I were single and decided not to have healthcare, how much would I be taxed/penalized?

Saw a chart the other day, $95 the first year, I believe over $600 by the third year. A family not paying in by 3rd year pays over $2000 or 2.5% of income, whichever is greater, if I remember right.
 

bbsam

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National security? Y'all make excuses why everything in a presidential candidate's past shouldn't be examined and you want to talk about national security? I had a Secret clearance in the Air Force, was properly vetted first. FedEx does a 10 year FBI background check on prospective employees. A candidate for the world's most powerful position refuses to disclose his university papers and that's fine by you. The press never saw those papers BBSam, although I'm sure many of them would of had a thrill run up their leg if they knew he had Marxist leanings.
You believe his presidency has show Marxist leanings?! Have you ever read Marx? If you have, then you would know that Obama wwould have done everything possible to help Express unionize, something you complain that he did not do. I think your own radical views are clouding your intelligence.
 

bbsam

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Saw a chart the other day, $95 the first year, I believe over $600 by the third year. A family not paying in by 3rd year pays over $2000 or 2.5% of income, whichever is greater, if I remember right.

That's a damn bargain! Currently I'm paying $1100 a month. I think I see that new Mustang in my future afterall!
 

bbsam

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And now that they can force you to get healthcare or pay a fine, what's next? Talk about eroding of rights.

Either that or tell people that when they get sick without insurance, they can't show up at the ER. I prefer the tax/penalty.
 

vantexan

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You believe his presidency has show Marxist leanings?! Have you ever read Marx? If you have, then you would know that Obama wwould have done everything possible to help Express unionize, something you complain that he did not do. I think your own radical views are clouding your intelligence.

Well actually he gave us the right to unionize with a simple majority of those participating, which was greatly criticized by corporations including FedEx. A major force in implementing Dynamic ROADS IMO. That apparently was about all he could legally do, but the Dems in Congress sold us out. I don't believe in unions for insuring us a highly paid cushy life by the way. But I do feel they are sometimes necessary to protect employees from an exploitive management. Your mileage may vary...
 

vantexan

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Either that or tell people that when they get sick without insurance, they can't show up at the ER. I prefer the tax/penalty.

And again, what's to stop them now from regulating other areas of our private lives? And the poor will now get care at taxpayer expense without paying the penalty. Redistribution, a common theme.
 

vantexan

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His policies have been anything but Marxist and highly market centered.

A government takeover of the auto industry is market centered? Giving one company half a billion dollars to manufacture solar panels is market centered? Giving a car company hundreds of millions to build electric cars in ANOTHER country is market centered? Many more examples, and not one real success story except kept GM from going under(for now). But forced GM to build and market the Volt, which isn't the answer to our prayers.
 

bbsam

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A government takeover of the auto industry is market centered? Giving one company half a billion dollars to manufacture solar panels is market centered? Giving a car company hundreds of millions to build electric cars in ANOTHER country is market centered? Many more examples, and not one real success story except kept GM from going under(for now). But forced GM to build and market the Volt, which isn't the answer to our prayers.

Yes
 

Goldilocks

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I know what card you are playing. I can think of half a dozen black politicians I'd gladly vote for but not Obama. He's surrounded by radicals, a number of which had to leave his service because they openly said extreme things that put him in an awkward position. Thankfully we have checks and balances, such as electing a Republican majority in the House that prevents him from doing too much harm.

We can agree on this topic!!
 

bbsam

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I await further analysis with great anticipation. Meanwhile, off to enrich the economy at the movies. C'ya!!
You asked if bailouts and such were market based solutions. I said yes. Now if you would say that it is not a free market, I would agree and ask when you thought it was.
 

vantexan

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This is like shooting fish in a barrel. I just Googled Obama radical associations and wow, the stuff that does come up. The very first from no less than CBS News. I guess you are familiar with Bill Ayers, the radical leftist who was involved in bombings that actually killed 1 person I recall. Got out of prison on a technicality and it was in his living room where he and his equally radical wife Bernadette Dorn help Obama launch his political career. You know, the guy who on 9/11 said he wished he could have done more bombings. These are the kind of people that seem to pop up all the time around Obama. Question is, are you a patriot first or do you seek to completely restructure(now there's a word) American society into a European Socialist model? Obama doesn't have to herd us into reeducation camps to be a Marxist. But if it's his, and his associates, goal to control everything through a powerful central government, then I've got news for them. Been tried. Doesn't work. And you aren't the crew who'll make it work. As flawed as capitalism is it does work.
 

bbsam

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This is like shooting fish in a barrel. I just Googled Obama radical associations and wow, the stuff that does come up. The very first from no less than CBS News. I guess you are familiar with Bill Ayers, the radical leftist who was involved in bombings that actually killed 1 person I recall. Got out of prison on a technicality and it was in his living room where he and his equally radical wife Bernadette Dorn help Obama launch his political career. You know, the guy who on 9/11 said he wished he could have done more bombings. These are the kind of people that seem to pop up all the time around Obama. Question is, are you a patriot first or do you seek to completely restructure(now there's a word) American society into a European Socialist model? Obama doesn't have to herd us into reeducation camps to be a Marxist. But if it's his, and his associates, goal to control everything through a powerful central government, then I've got news for them. Been tried. Doesn't work. And you aren't the crew who'll make it work. As flawed as capitalism is it does work.
I regularly associate with crack heads, drunks, and prostitutes. What can you tell me about my beliefs and motivations and lifestyle?
 
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