Going Into Porter's From Driving

Discussion in 'UPS Discussions' started by kurtkampy, Oct 23, 2010.

  1. kurtkampy

    kurtkampy New Member

    Hi Im Kurt from Wisconsin and I've been driving over 29 years. I'm thinking of transferring to Porters. My question is do you think the porter jobs will still be around in 3 years when contract is up? There really isn't a lot of information about porters out there and I don't know if the jobs are the same all over the country. Any thoughts on this?

    Kurt Kampy
  2. scratch

    scratch Least Best Moderator Staff Member

    This sounds like a good move to me. As a senior driver, I would not mind finishing out my last few years doing something like this that looks like it isn't so hard on the body. My only concern would be like you stated, will the job be there for the next few years.
  3. brownmonster

    brownmonster Man of Great Wisdom

    Rumor in our building is once the full-time porter retires, the job will go to part-time.
  4. rod

    rod retired and happy

    the real question is ----are driving jobs going to be around in 3 years?
  5. kurtkampy

    kurtkampy New Member

    And your pension
  6. brownmonster

    brownmonster Man of Great Wisdom

    kurt, speaking of Pension, local 344's pension is in the red. Might want to take the 30 and out while it's still there. You can get a janitor job somewhere else to make some extra.
  7. rod

    rod retired and happy

    No--- you must countinue to pay dues and Social Security. I appreciate it.
  8. kurtkampy

    kurtkampy New Member

    Hey Brownmonster;

    I know that 344 pension is in the red, but if the pension went belly up would it matter if I was retired and collecting or if I was still working? If there's no money in the pension at least I might still have a job.
  9. brownmonster

    brownmonster Man of Great Wisdom

    Good point. What I'm saying is guys are sticking around waiting for the pension to improve. I see the monthly pension being less down the road or having to be older to collect it. People getting a full pension at 51 years old is unsustainable.
  10. kurtkampy

    kurtkampy New Member

    My main concern is if go into porters will I have a job after next contract. I want to work a few more years until my last kid gets out of college. With the way UPS is cutting back, will they try to get rid of the porter jobs? If they eliminated them as people retire then at least I would still be able to work. If I try to keep driving till the next contract, then maybe they won't allow drivers into this position anymore. How easy would it be for the company to eliminate the porters job? The union business agent told me, if the job was eliminated I could go back to driving but I would always be at the bottom of the list, driving crummy routes and never gain any bidding seniority. Not a happy thought. Thanks for letting me vent.

    Kurt Kampy
  11. brownmonster

    brownmonster Man of Great Wisdom

    I wish this thread was a few days older. We had a union meeting Wed. and I would have asked this question.
  12. over9five

    over9five Senior Member Staff Member

    Also ask why your local allows your seniority to change just because you change classifications. You guys are being shafted.
  13. JonFrum

    JonFrum Member

    We don't even have Porters in New England. In my building we have an outside cleaning crew that pretends to clean the building and bathrooms. They also have a guy that drives the Zamboni back and forth over the cement floor to spread all the package car oil droppings out evenly. When it's humid and rainy he leaves the floor wet and all the oils float to the surface of the concrete. The water can't evaporate, so it's like walking in a skateing rink. Oddly, OSHA and Keter never seem to pay a visit on those days.
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    Normally UPS can eliminate any bargaining unit job as long as they leave the work undone. They can't just eliminate the Teamster job and then give the work to an outside contractor.
  14. alexw08

    alexw08 Guest

    Porters positions will be the first to go.
  15. rocket man

    rocket man Well-Known Member

    you have 29 years in??? And you have to ask on this site??? Were do you people come from?
  16. DSM515

    DSM515 Member

    Go for it. If they get rid of your job you can bump any job in your building with your seniority and they have to train you for your new job. Plus they cant take away union work and give it to a non union company
  17. j13501

    j13501 Member

    DS makes a great point. Although the company would love to eliminate all UPS porters (most of the buildings in the country have an outside cleaning service), it would be difficult to negotiate an elimination of that job without also allowing the current porters some flexibility in new assignment. Since the porters are the most senior people, both sides will understand that all the hourly employees will be concerned about the existing porters, and their new assignments.
  18. barnyard

    barnyard KTM rider Staff Member

    Look at the original posting date.
  19. frank75

    frank75 New Member

    Old thread but I gotta ask...Have you ever read L344's rider, or the CRT language? If anyone is being "shafted" the guys that voted this in did it to themselves. And brownmonster is dead wrong, L344's pension has never been in the RED zone.
  20. bottomups

    bottomups Bad Moon Risen'

    Had my doubts when I originally read this post and wanted to do some research before responding. Just returned from this months general membership meeting of Local 344, and as I thought, our pension is NOT in the red. As of last Friday in fact our pension is in the Green! The pension fund would have to lose over 10% between now and the end of the year to put it in the red zone for the year!