Gross insubordination

[allahuakbar]

Guarantee he refused to work because it was “too hot out”

 

[Management Blows]

Dunno.
What I do know is management will probably have a meeting with you and your Steward and offer you your job back with NO back pay.
If you refuse this offer you continue to be withdrawn from service and will fight for your job at panel.

I would be focused on getting back in service or preparing myself for panel.

Trying to see the situation how you WANT to see it instead of how it is will hurt you in the long run.

Do something to relax yourself, reassess the situation as honestly as you can, and based on your assessment do what you need to do to keep your job.

Good luck.

Appreciate the help

 

[silenze]

Who here hasn't been fired for gross insubordination? get off this guys nuts. Last time i was back to work the next day

 

[burrheadd]

What was the direct order?

Top Secret
You don’t have the clearance

 

[Management Blows]

Top Secret
You don’t have the clearance

G14 classified

 

[Fido]

G14 classified

Don’t make a topic then

 

[Management Blows]

Don’t make a topic then

Sir yes sir. You all are by the book. I can see why you all aren’t insubordinate

 

[MECH-lift]

Sir yes sir. You all are by the book. I can see why you all aren’t insubordinate

MANAGEMENT IS THE ENEMY
TREAT THEM AS SUCH
BURY THEM IN GRIEVANCES
TIME FOR WAR

RIP Maplegrove I miss you buddy

 

[542thruNthru]

Sir yes sir. You all are by the book. I can see why you all aren’t insubordinate

Questions...

What did you BA say about the working term?

Have you file a article 7 NMA grievance?

When you filed your article 50 grievance did you put "and all applicable articles"?

 

[Management Blows]

Questions...

What did you BA say about the working term?

Have you file a article 7 NMA grievance?

When you filed your article 50 grievance did you put "and all applicable articles"?

He was pretty vague. I just know a grievance was definitely filed by him on my behalf

 

[542thruNthru]

He was pretty vague. I just know a grievance was definitely filed by him on my behalf

Wait.. you haven't seen the grievance?

Your BA filed your termination grievance for you? How was he vague?

 

[Management Blows]

Wait.. you haven't seen the grievance?

Your BA filed your termination grievance for you? How was he vague?

There’s never communication but I did get assured in a text he filed it. I’ll request a copy tm. He was vague on my issue of the fact I think, right or wrong, it should allow me to work until my hearing

 

[542thruNthru]

When you were instructed to do something did they walk up the discipline? As in....

" I'm instructing you to do this. If you don't you'll receive a warning letter. Again I'm instructing you to do this if you do not it will now be a termination."

 

[Management Blows]

I refused for what I think is a sincere safety issue. They asked again and got the same answer. Then terminated me.

 

[542thruNthru]

I refused for what I think is a sincere safety issue. They asked again and got the same answer. Then terminated me.

There is your answer.

 

[MECH-lift]

I refused for what I think is a sincere safety issue. They asked again and got the same answer. Then terminated me.

I sure hope you didn’t punch out under 8 hrs that day

 

[MECH-lift]

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“use or possession of illegal drugs while on duty”

 

[allahuakbar]

I sure hope you didn’t punch out under 8 hrs that day

Sounds like he punched in and immediately punched out.

 

[DELACROIX]

He was pretty vague. I just know a grievance was definitely filed by him on my behalf

Did you personally write out and sign your grievance paper...?

 

[Wally]

I get it that you all think I may or may not get my job back. But if I refused to help, refused to run a different route or refused to do something similar, it’s still gross insubordination. In the Atlantic region it’s not a cardinal infraction. I should be working.

We get paid by the hour. Work as directed.