Have heard in Upstate Ny. UPS is already doing 10/4 areas

Discussion in 'UPS Union Issues' started by 10 2 go, Jun 8, 2013.

  1. 3 done 3 to go

    3 done 3 to go In control of my own destiny

    Any of you guys know of these routes running?
     
  2. 3 done 3 to go

    3 done 3 to go In control of my own destiny

    In package
     
  3. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    Our supplement has language for 4x10s in feeders, not package. 10% of all bid routes rounded down to the next whole number may be converted to 4x10.
     
  4. rpoz11

    rpoz11 Member

    Why did these changes occur?
     
  5. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    They have not occurred---they are proposed changes. The reason is quite simple----money. 4x10's don't pay OT until you have worked 10hrs/day, 40hrs/week. What will happen is the run(s) will be converted, put up for bid and the lowest seniority driver(s) will be forced to take it (them).
     
  6. 40 and out

    40 and out Active Member

    Another concession!!! How many does that make? I've lost count. Let's hope UPS never loses money. We'll be paying them to let us work there.
     
  7. rpoz11

    rpoz11 Member

    Have the 4/10 workdays been in effect anywhere yet & if so, what have the results been?
     
  8. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    Call it what you will but it is a smart business move.
     
  9. trickpony1

    trickpony1 Well-Known Member

    So what are you, Mr. Upstate who lives and works in the BOG, gonna do when you have to work 10 hour days instead of 8.04?
     
  10. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    You mean other than look forward to a 3 day weekend?
     
  11. over9five

    over9five Moderator Staff Member

    That's what I'm talkin' about.
     
  12. cachsux

    cachsux Wah

    They'll make Wednesday the off day.
     
  13. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    It will either Monday or Friday.
     
  14. 728ups

    728ups offending people on the internet since 1995

    I'd jump all over a 4/10 schedule,but since this is UPS we are talking about i'm certain it would quickly become a 4/13 schedule
     
  15. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    Think about your start and cut off times----would this even be possible?
     
  16. 728ups

    728ups offending people on the internet since 1995

    830am-1030pm are hours I have worked many times,and I can certainly see the 4/10 drivers being worked this much.
     
  17. soberups

    soberups Pees in the brown Koolaid

    I wouldnt have a problem with it as long as no one had the bid forced on them. There are probably plenty of people who dont need the OT money and would love to have 3 day weekends.
     
  18. Can they force you in on a fifth day? If they do is the whole day OT?
     
  19. What'dyabringmetoday???

    What'dyabringmetoday??? Well-Known Member

    Yup. Not consecutive. It can be Sunday, Tues, Thurs, Sat if they choose.
     
  20. Funfact

    Funfact Well-Known Member

    Somebody still has to do the route on the 5th day. Last time I check UPS isn't going to a 4 delivery week.