Participate In a Grievance! POLL

Discussion in 'UPS Union Issues' started by HazmatGuy, Sep 5, 2014.

  1. BigBeef42

    BigBeef42 Active Member

    Hey guys, i got a story...

    Today we used a few dozen drivers-helpers due to a spike in volume.

    Their was a sign up sheet yesterday to be a helper. I didnt know about it, therefore i never signed it, and i had no idea they were using 2 dozen helpers.

    Im a UTILITY DRIVER and they never called me to help. I assumed they didnt need me today, which is the norm...

    Do i have a Grievance here?

    Vote 1 for yes

    Vote 2 for No

    Im one of the next guys in line to go FULLTIME and dont want to piss these guys off.
     
  2. Future

    Future Well-Known Member

    Think your right in the middle of a gray area....... happened to me a very long time ago......I was a casual for a few years, but they said they didnt need me for a driver for a day and would use me as a helper......was not a happy guy that day!
     
  3. BigBeef42

    BigBeef42 Active Member

    Hmmm. Thats what im thinking too.

    My center manager told me after-the-fact that they were so short handed and could have used my help. WTF

    Less Runnin, More Stunnin
     
  4. Future

    Future Well-Known Member

    Not sure if I would pursue the issue considering your pending status becoming full-time.........might think about letting this one go.
     
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  5. BigBeef42

    BigBeef42 Active Member

    Once again, my thoughts exactly

    Less Runnin, More Stunnin
     
  6. TooTechie

    TooTechie Geek in Brown

    I haven't seen anything in the contract requiring them to call a driver in instead of using helpers. Just make it known you're ready and willing to drive, but there is nothing to grieve imho.
     
  7. Cementups

    Cementups Box Monkey

    Technically I thought drivers should be exhausted before helpers are to be used.
     
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  8. superballs63

    superballs63 Well-Known Troll Troll

    Technically, you probably do. With you going out FT soon, don't piss them off unnecessarily.
     
  9. BigBeef42

    BigBeef42 Active Member

    Just talked with a guy who signed the driverhelper sheet.

    The sheet was never posted in a physical location. The hub manager walked around and asked only a handful of guys to sign. WTF

    Less Runnin, More Stunnin
     
  10. BigBeef42

    BigBeef42 Active Member


    Me too dude.

    Im :censored2: because the off peak helper pay rate is around $33hr..

    Less Runnin, More Stunnin
     
  11. shazboot

    shazboot New Member

    Do u work at the spokane hub?


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  12. Bottom rung

    Bottom rung Active Member

    Your outside of a free period therefore cannot drive unless there are vacation days to cover and you're vacation coverage. If your close to going full time I'd just let it go. You'll be upset if you go f/t and get dq'd over some b.s. because you couldn't pick your battles. Your new here and posted your situation. We've all seen it. Let your f/t sup know you need hours and he'll look you up if need be. Until then lay low, win your bid, cash checks.
     
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  13. BigBeef42

    BigBeef42 Active Member

    Well said. Thats what i wanted to hear.

    My shop steward said dont grieve it. So im treading lightly. Thanks bro

    Less Runnin, More Stunnin
     
  14. Funfact

    Funfact Well-Known Member

    In my area.

    Package driver helpers will be used from the Monday of the week
    prior to Thanksgiving week until December 25 of any contract year.
    Such employees shall receive $9.50 per hour for the life of the
    Agreement. Helpers when required by the Employer will punch
    his/her own time card at the beginning and end of the work day.
    Helpers will be paid based on hours worked. Helpers will not be
    allowed to do any driving work whatsoever.

    Helper operating plans will be reviewed with the Local Union.

    Current part time employees used to supplement helper needs will
    be paid $ 11.00 per hour for hours worked.
     
  15. Tell your steward or business agent. Let them handle it and take the heat.
     
  16. brownmonster

    brownmonster Man of Great Wisdom

    You should be grieving the use of helpers in September.
     
  17. Got that right!
    Hire some more drivers!
     
  18. TooTechie

    TooTechie Geek in Brown

    I agree they should be, but my point is contractually they don't have to be. We have no language requiring that in the NMA. The closest thing we have in the NE supp is "Helper operating plans will be reviewed with the local union."
     
  19. PiedmontSteward

    PiedmontSteward RTW-4-Less

    Driver helpers in September? Sounds like your center needs more FT drivers.
     
  20. Future

    Future Well-Known Member

    Think I would send a warning shot....tell steward to have a intense conversation with center manager about the issue....it won't happen again.....if it does then file official