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vantexan

Well-Known Member
You jumped in here and said that it was possible for whomever to find out our ISP information. I'm asking you to prove it. If you can't, just say so.

And I gave you a string of words to do a search on Google. You'll turn up more than enough to prove my point. I'm not a computer wizard, only know, and have known for years, that it's a fact that posts have numbers attached to them that identify the poster's ISP and the location of that ISP. Do you really think the government would allow total autonomy for the Internet? I'm not talking about I Spy, but about being able to track the origins of things like child porn and terroristic threats. Think one can threaten the President and not be found? Think FedEx can't pay Internet security specialists to track down who's hacking their intranet or something similar? If you still say no, they can't, then you just prove my point that you'd sooner eat your shoe than ever admit you were wrong. But then you demonstrated a rudimentary knowledge of stock trading awhile back so I guess you just aren't very sophisticated in such matters. Sorry, couldn't resist!
 

CJinx

Well-Known Member
Yes, IP addresses are attached to the posts you make on this website. This information is presumably only available to the administrators and whoever they deem fit to view that information. An IP address is not tied to an individual; but rather to the provider that furnishes you with access to the internet. An IP address, for the layman, can provide you with the state and general area. For example, tracing my IP address would lead you to believe that I am in the capital of the state I'm from; however I live and work almost 60 miles from it.

I am certain that Fedex does have the ability to tell who access their intranet and when, but announcing your intention to do so wouldn't really do much to identify you. According to Wikipedia, there are 290,000 employees of the company, any of whom could be accessing that information at any given time. Now, it probably wouldn't be wise to announce that you were going to access a certain obscure file by name/number on a certain date; they can likely see who accessed what on a given day and narrow it down to a few dozen people. From there on out, it would be a matter of reading the posts of the screen name that posted here and correlating their experiences with service records of suspected employees.

That's how I would do it, anyway.
 

59 Dano

I just want to make friends!
It happens to be the law. Employers cannot actively discourage unionization. None of that stops FedEx.

An employer can't prevent employees from organizing, nor can it threaten, punish, or retaliate against employees who are perceived to favor a union or trying to organize his peers. It can, however, hold on-the-clock lectures about unions until the cows come home.
 

MrFedEx

Engorged Member
An employer can't prevent employees from organizing, nor can it threaten, punish, or retaliate against employees who are perceived to favor a union or trying to organize his peers. It can, however, hold on-the-clock lectures about unions until the cows come home.

FedEx constantly prevents employees from organizing, and threatens, punishes, and retailates against employees who are perceived to favor a union or try to organize their peers. To deny it is proof of your cluelessness about the reality of Express anti-union efforts. Quit playing dumb, because you fully know that the only company out there more anti-union than FedEx is WalMart.

They cannot hold on-the-clock anti-union lectures either. Management is supposed to be "neutral". If someone asks a question in a meeting about unions, managers can give an informative response along the lines of "FedEx isn't anti-union in any way" (Frederick W. Smith) or something similar, like "FedEx pays competitive wages and benefits". Management being actively anti-union is actively discouraging organizing. That's why they are extremely careful about the wording they use.

You're too easy.
 

Cactus

Just telling it like it is
FedEx constantly prevents employees from organizing, and threatens, punishes, and retailates against employees who are perceived to favor a union or try to organize their peers. To deny it is proof of your cluelessness about the reality of Express anti-union efforts. Quit playing dumb, because you fully know that the only company out there more anti-union than FedEx is WalMart.

They cannot hold on-the-clock anti-union lectures either. Management is supposed to be "neutral". If someone asks a question in a meeting about unions, managers can give an informative response along the lines of "FedEx isn't anti-union in any way" (Frederick W. Smith) or something similar, like "FedEx pays competitive wages and benefits". Management being actively anti-union is actively discouraging organizing. That's why they are extremely careful about the wording they use.

You're too easy.

All very true.

The mention of the word union around management means you have a target on your back plain and simple.
 

vantexan

Well-Known Member
It's not my job to prove your point. I prove my points, you prove your points.

Welcome to the world of debate!

Who's debating? I was suggesting to MFE to be careful, and why I thought he should be. You jumped in to talk about me like a nutjob conspiracy theorist. I don't have to prove anything to you, only pointed out that apparently you aren't aware of certain things. And received ridicule for doing so. It's up to you whether you want to research something or not, I've got better things to do than argue with you. But if it makes you feel better I shall now grovel at your feet, knowing I'm not worthy to look upon your countenance. There, does that do it for you?
 

59 Dano

I just want to make friends!
FedEx constantly prevents employees from organizing, and threatens, punishes, and retailates against employees who are perceived to favor a union or try to organize their peers. To deny it is proof of your cluelessness about the reality of Express anti-union efforts. .

To make allegations without substance is proof that you're just lying. Again. Where are all of the lawsuits in which FedEx has been found guilty of all of this lawbreaking? If it's as bad as you allege, FedEx would be being cited for violations and on the losing end of lawsuit after lawsuit.

I can't wait to hear your excuse as to why this hasn't happened.

They cannot hold on-the-clock anti-union lectures either. Management is supposed to be "neutral". If someone asks a question in a meeting about unions, managers can give an informative response along the lines of "FedEx isn't anti-union in any way" (Frederick W. Smith) or something similar, like "FedEx pays competitive wages and benefits". Management being actively anti-union is actively discouraging organizing. That's why they are extremely careful about the wording they use.

You're too easy

They can do it. I've worked on both ends of the labor issue. Have you? Companies can --and do-- include anti-union material in new hire orientation and training.

You'd think that someone who strives as hard as you to portray himself as a know-it-all would at least have the basics covered.
 

MrFedEx

Engorged Member
To make allegations without substance is proof that you're just lying. Again. Where are all of the lawsuits in which FedEx has been found guilty of all of this lawbreaking? If it's as bad as you allege, FedEx would be being cited for violations and on the losing end of lawsuit after lawsuit.

I can't wait to hear your excuse as to why this hasn't happened.



They can do it. I've worked on both ends of the labor issue. Have you? Companies can --and do-- include anti-union material in new hire orientation and training.

You'd think that someone who strives as hard as you to portray himself as a know-it-all would at least have the basics covered.

The basics are the law. Obviously, you have no understanding of it. I'd expect nothing less from a lowly manager.
 

59 Dano

I just want to make friends!
The basics are the law. Obviously, you have no understanding of it. I'd expect nothing less from a lowly manager.

Even the staunchest pro-labor guys aren't saying that it's illegal. They don't like it, and they can make some pretty silly dramatic comments about it, but they aren't denying its legality.

Then there's you....
 

MrFedEx

Engorged Member
Even the staunchest pro-labor guys aren't saying that it's illegal. They don't like it, and they can make some pretty silly dramatic comments about it, but they aren't denying its legality.

Then there's you....

The law has never stopped FedEx until it actually gets enforced. There are a lot of wealthy ex-employees out there along with their attorneys who have made a bundle off FedEx Express flaunting the law, and there will be more in the future.
 

whenIgetthere

Well-Known Member
Heard yesterday express is testing a new policy, releasing ALL non-sig required packages to apartments! It's being tested at a station near here. If you 08 an apartment package that was not ISR, DSR or ASR, OLCC or written warning. Apparently fred wants everyone to pay for signatures, regardless of where the package is going! I don't know about anyone else here, but I refuse to release packages to the aprtments on my route. If I left a package, it would be gone two minutes later, and most of the leasing offices DON'T accept deliveries for residents. Just another way some maroon in Memphis thinks we can suck more $$ out of customers. Spend $50 to ship a package overnight to get it stolen, but for an extra $2.75, we can get a signature, and keep your package safe.! My take is this will send more big accounts over to UPS.
 

Cactus

Just telling it like it is
Heard yesterday express is testing a new policy, releasing ALL non-sig required packages to apartments! It's being tested at a station near here. If you 08 an apartment package that was not ISR, DSR or ASR, OLCC or written warning. Apparently fred wants everyone to pay for signatures, regardless of where the package is going! I don't know about anyone else here, but I refuse to release packages to the aprtments on my route. If I left a package, it would be gone two minutes later, and most of the leasing offices DON'T accept deliveries for residents. Just another way some maroon in Memphis thinks we can suck more $$ out of customers. Spend $50 to ship a package overnight to get it stolen, but for an extra $2.75, we can get a signature, and keep your package safe.! My take is this will send more big accounts over to UPS.

Just remember if you consider the location unsafe, you don't have to leave the package.
 

whenIgetthere

Well-Known Member
Just remember if you consider the location unsafe, you don't have to leave the package.

That's the rub according to my friend at that station. He said if no signature required, you MUST leave the package at the apartment or office, OLCC or warning are mandatory if package is a send-again. Just another way to dumb down the job so any slug off the street can walk in and do it at ten bucks an hour.
 

MrFedEx

Engorged Member
That's the rub according to my friend at that station. He said if no signature required, you MUST leave the package at the apartment or office, OLCC or warning are mandatory if package is a send-again. Just another way to dumb down the job so any slug off the street can walk in and do it at ten bucks an hour.

LOL. Sounds like another really stupid policy. Wait until some kid takes the package of meds, pot, or ammo, (or whatever else they aren't supposed to have) and then gets sick, injures someone, or some other disaster. Can you say lawsuit? $$$$$$$!!! Imagine the liability exposure. And you're probably right about dumbing it down, but that's so the Ground driver can do it. No heavy mental calculations required.
 

LTFedExer

Well-Known Member
Heard yesterday express is testing a new policy, releasing ALL non-sig required packages to apartments! It's being tested at a station near here. If you 08 an apartment package that was not ISR, DSR or ASR, OLCC or written warning. Apparently fred wants everyone to pay for signatures, regardless of where the package is going! I don't know about anyone else here, but I refuse to release packages to the aprtments on my route. If I left a package, it would be gone two minutes later, and most of the leasing offices DON'T accept deliveries for residents. Just another way some maroon in Memphis thinks we can suck more $$ out of customers. Spend $50 to ship a package overnight to get it stolen, but for an extra $2.75, we can get a signature, and keep your package safe.! My take is this will send more big accounts over to UPS.
I haen't heard this. Then again 'My manager/upper management does NOT keep us informed'.

LOL. Sounds like another really stupid policy. Wait until some kid takes the package of meds, pot, or ammo, (or whatever else they aren't supposed to have) and then gets sick, injures someone, or some other disaster. Can you say lawsuit? $$$$$$$!!! Imagine the liability exposure. And you're probably right about dumbing it down, but that's so the Ground driver can do it. No heavy mental calculations required.
I think you know better MFE. I doubt they'll allow this. Well, maybe they will until the 1st important package gets stolen.....or they say :rolleyes: it got stolen. FedEx does some dumb things, but covering their butt their good at.
 

CJinx

Well-Known Member
Driver release to apartments is already heavily discouraged on the ground/hd side, at least in my station. Some of the ISPs even have internal policy to require signatures, unless the consignee puts a request through customer service or calls the station/driver.
 
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