Regal Cinema's new "security policy"

[bbsam]

I dont want to be the good guy hero sheriff in a smoky theater but thats beside the point.

The point is that you are wanting to hold the cops and good guys to an impossibly high "zero tolerance" standard of performance under life and death circumstances instead of assigning blame to the criminal whose actions created the situation in the first place.

You want me to simply give a pass based on good intentions? Hell no. Firing a weapon carries very heavy responsibility and should. Good intentions are not enough.

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

bbsam brings up an excellent point. While a judge may find that sober acted with "good intentions", he would/should still be held liable if he were to miss.

 

[wayfair]

bbsam brings up an excellent point. While a judge may find that sober acted with "good intentions", he would/should still be held liable if he were to miss.

they would be just like in NY

http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/Dorner-Pickup-Truck-Settlement-204322271.html

 

[soberups]

bbsam brings up an excellent point. While a judge may find that sober acted with "good intentions", he would/should still be held liable if he were to miss.

Actually, that would be a matter for a jury to decide, not a judge.

 

[Babagounj]

Think hollow points .
Less chances of having a round pass through a target's body and striking a innocent bystander .

 

[bbsam]

Actually, that would be a matter for a jury to decide, not a judge.

Ok. A jury then.

 

[soberups]

Ok. A jury then.

A jury that would be instructed to take into account the circumstances of the shooting and any mitigating factors that existed when determining the negligence of the cop or armed civilian who engaged a mass murderer.

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

A jury that would be instructed to take into account the circumstances of the shooting and any mitigating factors that existed when determining the negligence of the cop or armed civilian who engaged a mass murderer.

...while keeping in mind the innocent victims...an 8 year old girl killed while sitting with her parents watching "Inside Out" should never be considered "collateral damage".

 

[bbsam]

A jury that would be instructed to take into account the circumstances of the shooting and any mitigating factors that existed when determining the negligence of the cop or armed civilian who engaged a mass murderer.

A jury that would most likely contain citizens with young children or parents who remember their children fondly at that age.

 

[oldngray]

A jury could go either way. Big differences in attitudes in different parts of the country.

 

[bbsam]

A jury could go either way. Big differences in attitudes in different parts of the country.

A jury could go either way in a criminal trial. The subsequent civil trial is almost a slam dunk for the parents of the collateral damage...I mean 8 year old girl.

 

[oldngray]

A jury could go either way in a criminal trial. The subsequent civil trial is almost a slam dunk for the parents of the collateral damage...I mean 8 year old girl.

In no way would a civil trial be a slam dunk. Lower burden of proof for sure but far from a certain outcome.

 

[bbsam]

In no way would a civil trial be a slam dunk. Lower burden of proof for sure but far from a certain outcome.

You might be right. By then the "good guy" will be living a George Zimmerman/Darren Wilson existence if he's lucky.

 

[oldngray]

You might be right. By then the "good guy" will be living a George Zimmerman/Darren Wilson existence if he's lucky.

Probably true but if someone is cleared in both criminal and civil trials then the public shouldn't harass them just because they don't agree with the verdict. Even more, the media would need to let the story die a natural death instead of milking it for ratings.

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

A jury could go either way. Big differences in attitudes in different parts of the country.

Show me a jury anywhere that would justify an 8 year old child being killed by a well-intentioned cop wannabe who missed.

 

[oldngray]

Show me a jury anywhere that would justify an 8 year old child being killed by a well-intentioned cop wannabe who missed.

Since those cases are rare it is hard to find a precedent. With either result.

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

Since those cases are rare it is hard to find a precedent.

I didn't mean to literally show me.

 

[oldngray]

I didn't mean to literally show me.

You also said a cop wannabe which very possibly wouldn't be a true assessment of the situation. Certainly it wouldn't be true in every case.

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

You also said a cop wannabe which very possibly wouldn't be a true assessment of the situation. Certainly it wouldn't be true in every case.

Yeah.....OK.

How many accountants CCW?

 

[oldngray]

Yeah.....OK.

How many accountants CCW?

A lot.