Sarah Palin at Tea party convention...cheating!

moreluck

golden ticket member
I'm not game when it comes to eating game!! Don't like any of it because of the 'wild' taste. Bullwinkle doesn't sound appetizing to me.

I really don't understand the Palin bashing....she's not a politician, she's not presently a candidate for any office....she's just a woman from Alaska and a mom.....where's the threat ?

I would think that Dems. have more worries with the Speaker running a dirty house and Rangel throwing his staff under the bus and him not paying taxes and Reid thinking he's Capt. America who's going to save us all from our own ignorance.

Enjoy the spotlight because things will CHANGE in Nov. We'll "git 'er dun!"
 

tieguy

Banned
Gotcha "Ya".....BTW, have you tried Alaskan moose burgers ? uhm....De-lish

Speaking of political bullschitt, didn't "America's Hockey Mom" capture 2009's top honor for dishonest quote of the year, with her "death panel" rants, praying on the elderly....

you must be working for Palin , you're doing so much to help her career.
 

Babagounj

Strength through joy
Gotcha "Ya".....BTW, have you tried Alaskan moose burgers ? uhm....De-lish

Speaking of political bullschitt, didn't "America's Hockey Mom" capture 2009's top honor for dishonest quote of the year, with her "death panel" rants, praying on the elderly....
Medical rationing according to obamacare, spin it any way you wish, but basically is what she said not true.
You restrict medical care by cutting funds to meidicare,and just who gets medicare & medicane... why the elderly. Thus with the funds limited by this new law, just how can they keep up all the services without making some hard choices.
Dishonest quote of the year should be going to the barry for claiming that he would allow the american people time to read every bill before he signed it.
 

bbsam

Moderator
Staff member
Medical rationing according to obamacare, spin it any way you wish, but basically is what she said not true.
You restrict medical care by cutting funds to meidicare,and just who gets medicare & medicane... why the elderly. Thus with the funds limited by this new law, just how can they keep up all the services without making some hard choices.
Dishonest quote of the year should be going to the barry for claiming that he would allow the american people time to read every bill before he signed it.
Are you suggesting that medical care in this country is not already rationed by insurance companies?
 

tieguy

Banned
Are you suggesting that medical care in this country is not already rationed by insurance companies?

As someone who recently went through the gamut I can tell you mine was not rationed.

Insurance companies have some positives. I see a lot of emphasis on wellness and prevention activites coming from insurance companies.
 

av8torntn

Well-Known Member
Gotcha "Ya".....BTW, have you tried Alaskan moose burgers ? uhm....De-lish

Speaking of political bullschitt, didn't "America's Hockey Mom" capture 2009's top honor for dishonest quote of the year, with her "death panel" rants, praying on the elderly....


So what would you call a government board that determined treatment standards for everyone based on life span? No matter if you paid cash, had private insurance, or were on the government tit by her speaking up it changed the entire debate. If we were to be honest I think we'd all admit this appeal she has is a big part of the reason for the dislike from the left she gets.
 

bbsam

Moderator
Staff member
As someone who recently went through the gamut I can tell you mine was not rationed.

Insurance companies have some positives. I see a lot of emphasis on wellness and prevention activites coming from insurance companies.
But that is not to say that rationing does not take place. Perhaps yours did not reach a threshhold? Wellness and prevention in this country are long overdue.
 

tieguy

Banned
But that is not to say that rationing does not take place. Perhaps yours did not reach a threshhold? Wellness and prevention in this country are long overdue.

I had a heart valve replaced. I had every imaginable test run before the surgery. If I didn't get rationed I can't imagine what you have to do to get rationed.
 

bbsam

Moderator
Staff member
I had a heart valve replaced. I had every imaginable test run before the surgery. If I didn't get rationed I can't imagine what you have to do to get rationed.
Would someone on medicaid get the same attention? Medicare? Be honest. Life and death are a matter of economic wherewithal. What is it with heart valves anyway? We had a 38 year old guy at out terminal get a mechanical valve a few weeks ago. He was up and moving within 12 hours. Amazing what medicine can do...if you can afford it.
 

island1fox

Well-Known Member
:sad-little:I am shocked that intelligent people on either side cannot see this is a real problem.
Obama wants us to believe while medicare is heading for bankruptcy --they are going to reduce funding by 500 billion and add millions and millions or retired baby boomers.
The cuts will come by reducing the payment to Doctors by 22%
What Doctor will accept medicare patients ?????
Long waiting lists, very few Doctors and Hospitals accepting Medicare --this is what awaits all hard working UPSers and all Americans once they reach 65. Death Panels ???? Diesel of course not !!!!!
The ups and Teamster plan --dumps us into Medicare when we reach 65 --something to look forward to.
After working hard my whole life ----I will be in the same "waiting line" of illegals and people who would never consider working at UPS --much too hard for them !!!!:angry:
 

diesel96

Well-Known Member
So what would you call a government board that determined treatment standards for everyone based on life span? No matter if you paid cash, had private insurance, or were on the government tit by her speaking up it changed the entire debate. If we were to be honest I think we'd all admit this appeal she has is a big part of the reason for the dislike from the left she gets.

Lets be honest, "Death Panels" is simply a "covered" office visit for the elderly patient to discuss options with their doctors, and determine a plan of action for end of life span scenario's.


I had a heart valve replaced. I had every imaginable test run before the surgery. If I didn't get rationed I can't imagine what you have to do to get rationed.

You get rationed, by not having the equivilant, piss poor, or no Insurance what so ever, as UPS employees....

:sad-little:I am shocked that intelligent people on either side cannot see this is a real problem.
Obama wants us to believe while medicare is heading for bankruptcy --they are going to reduce funding by 500 billion and add millions and millions or retired baby boomers.
The cuts will come by reducing the payment to Doctors by 22%
What Doctor will accept medicare patients ?????
Long waiting lists, very few Doctors and Hospitals accepting Medicare --this is what awaits all hard working UPSers and all Americans once they reach 65. Death Panels ???? Diesel of course not !!!!!
The ups and Teamster plan --dumps us into Medicare when we reach 65 --something to look forward to.
After working hard my whole life ----I will be in the same "waiting line" of illegals and people who would never consider working at UPS --much too hard for them !!!!:angry:


You have not touch on wasteful testing and duplicating medical procedures, you have not touch on hugh profit margins and the private sector ripping the public off on the cost of medical equipment, procedures and Pharms, you have not touch on maximum profits margins mandated by for profit Private hospitals, and Insurance giants intentionally balking on claim reciepients...

We all have parents and grand-parents, there's no need to try to scare us into thinking medicare is a nightmare....fear,fear, and more fear....it only works with gullible conservatives
 

Babagounj

Strength through joy
you have no touched on the fact that many hospital have to charge people with insurance double or triple their actually costs to offset the costs from all the illegals who pay nothing, but demand everything .
Nor have you touched the costs for translators .
Nor have you touched that removing all these illegals from the USA would actually benefit the country and end this cycle .
 

Babagounj

Strength through joy
TOP TEN INDICATORS THAT YOUR EMPLOYER HAS CHANGED TO OBAMA’S HEALTH CARE PLAN:

Posted on | March 1, 2010 |



(10) Your annual breast exam is done at Hooters.

(9) Directions to your doctor’s office include “Take a left when you enter the trailer park.”

(8) The tongue depressors taste faintly of Fudgesicles.

(7) The only proctologist in the plan is “Gus” from Roto-Rooter.

(6) The only item listed under Preventative Care Coverage is “an apple a day.”

(5) Your primary care physician is wearing the pants you gave to Goodwill last month.

(4) “The patient is responsible for 200% of out-of-network charges,” is not a typographical error.

(3) The only expense covered 100% is. ”Embalming.”

(2) Your Prozac comes in different colors with little M’s on them.

AND THE NUMBER ONE SIGN YOU’VE JOINED
OBAMA’S HEALTH CARE PLAN:

(1) You ask for Viagra, and they give you a Popsicle stick and duct tape !
 

tieguy

Banned
TOP TEN INDICATORS THAT YOUR EMPLOYER HAS CHANGED TO OBAMA’S HEALTH CARE PLAN:

Posted on | March 1, 2010 |



(10) Your annual breast exam is done at Hooters.

(9) Directions to your doctor’s office include “Take a left when you enter the trailer park.”

(8) The tongue depressors taste faintly of Fudgesicles.

(7) The only proctologist in the plan is “Gus” from Roto-Rooter.

(6) The only item listed under Preventative Care Coverage is “an apple a day.”

(5) Your primary care physician is wearing the pants you gave to Goodwill last month.

(4) “The patient is responsible for 200% of out-of-network charges,” is not a typographical error.

(3) The only expense covered 100% is. ”Embalming.”

(2) Your Prozac comes in different colors with little M’s on them.

AND THE NUMBER ONE SIGN YOU’VE JOINED
OBAMA’S HEALTH CARE PLAN:

(1) You ask for Viagra, and they give you a Popsicle stick and duct tape !

priceless
 

klein

Für Meno :)
you have no touched on the fact that many hospital have to charge people with insurance double or triple their actually costs to offset the costs from all the illegals who pay nothing, but demand everything .
Nor have you touched the costs for translators .
Nor have you touched that removing all these illegals from the USA would actually benefit the country and end this cycle .



You guys had your chance, under Bush, as Demostrations all across the US took place.
Could have rounded them all up them.
This one is just from Chicago, but all major cities, and Washington also had them.

 

UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)

Well-Known Member
My Dad lived in a nursing home and was on both Medicare and Medicaid before he passed away and the level of care that he received was the same that he would have received had he had his own insurance or was self-pay. We had very few problems with either Medicare or Medicaid and those that we did were easily resolved.
 

tieguy

Banned
You guys had your chance, under Bush, as Demostrations all across the US took place.
Could have rounded them all up them.
This one is just from Chicago, but all major cities, and Washington also had them.


you guys being who? Americans?
 
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