Smoking and UPS

toonertoo

Most Awesome Dog
Staff member
Browndawg beat me to it. So did my boss, he said pretty soon medical coverage wont be available to smokers. So then it shouldnt be available to obese persons, because it is also self inflicted illness. Or to people with mental problems caused by drug usage. The list could go on. We know more now than ever that it is a killer, so smokers and drinkers get taxed to death. Im ashamed of the dirty habit, few people know I puff, Im on my way off, Ive set the date. Ive given myself a 200 dollar a month raise as my husband also smokes, and we have cut down that much. Now its just a matter of the date getting here, and sticking to it. But when my grandson told my husband he needed to quit, and there are commercials on his tv and probably on ours too, to help him quit, it brought him to his knees. That is when we got serious. Yes its nasty, but it is an addiction, some say worse than heroin. My mother smoked like a chimney and died at 70 of lung cancer. That should be enough to stop you but it doesnt.
 

The-UK-Guy

Tea anyone ?
NEXT THING YOULL BE COMPLAINING ABOUT WILL BE MC DONALD'S MAKING PEOPLE FAT. AND WHY YOU HAVE TO BE OBLIGATED TO LOOK AT OBESE PEOPLE. AND YES, SMOKING WILL KILL YOU BUT SO DO A WHOLE LOT OF OTHER THINGS OUT THERE TO MANY TO LIST. YES I DO SMOKE PUFF!! PUFF!!!

Everyone has a vice of some kind man and you deserve to relax
but Just remeber that its not just big arrow up that you are hurting, you are , like it or not harming other people .
I`m not attacking you man just venting , My daughter is 7 and has a heart condition . You take the healthy heart you were blessed with for granted as do most of us , I just think you may not be such a proud smoker after visiting a childrens hospital for cancer or heart conditions. I pray that you never get the chance,
 

alister

Well-Known Member
NEXT THING YOULL BE COMPLAINING ABOUT WILL BE MC DONALD'S MAKING PEOPLE FAT. AND WHY YOU HAVE TO BE OBLIGATED TO LOOK AT OBESE PEOPLE. AND YES, SMOKING WILL KILL YOU BUT SO DO A WHOLE LOT OF OTHER THINGS OUT THERE TO MANY TO LIST. YES I DO SMOKE PUFF!! PUFF!!!
How many big macs do you have to eat before the person that sits next to you every day dies from a heart attack? How many waitress, bar tenders and air stewardess have died from lung cancer or a heart attack and they them selfs do not smoke?

also, how many big macs does it take before the area you eat the big macs in smell like stale big macs?
 

BROWNDAWG

Active Member
How many big macs do you have to eat before the person that sits next to you every day dies from a heart attack? How many waitress, bar tenders and air stewardess have died from lung cancer or a heart attack and they them selfs do not smoke?

also, how many big macs does it take before the area you eat the big macs in smell like stale big macs?
WHEN YOU PUMP YOUR GAS AT STATION YOUR AT RISK TOO. INHALING THOSE FUMES CAUSES CANCER. WHEN YOU GO TO BEACH UV RAYS GIVE U CANCER, WHEN U COOKOUT BBQ CARBON GIVES U CANCER. SUGAR SUBSTITUTES GIVE U CANCER. TEFLON COOKWARE GIVES U CANCER. PESTICIDES USED FOR GROWING VEGGIES GIVES U CANCER. LIVING NEARBY HIGH VOLTAGE TRANSFORMERS GIVES U CANCER ETC................
 
WE go no smoking in the UK on july 1st 2007, what a day that will be !!!!!! the bars, pubs, clubs will empty!! Come the end on the year the goverment will raise taxs in the uk on all working people because they are loosing £500 billion pound in tax revenue. So everybody will now have to pay, because they say that second hand smoking causes cancer. Its that word CANCER that kills people. I have lost family and friends through CANCER, non smokers all. Car exhaust, van and lorry fumes, power stations burning coal and coke, this food, that food causes CANCER, they even tell us now that vitamins cause bowel CANCER. I smoke!! I enjoy it. and will not stop because some jumped up goverment official says I have to. Power to the indivigual, not to masses
 

The-UK-Guy

Tea anyone ?
It burns me every godam time I pick up the gas pump and I carpool as much as I can I pack waterbabys spf 30 4hour and I make a consious effort to try and help a little for my kids sake I know I cant make much of a difference but I do my best, thats not true because i could do more but I try . Trust me I dont need you to remind me of all the hazards that our kids face everyday we have to pay extra attention . I see a lot of U U U mentioned in your last reply and you are correct . but like I said you might be less likely to have that I dont give a **** if I`m adding to the problem attitude after visiting a kids unit . Maybe you wouldn`t , do you have children or planning to have a family in the futer ? Or are you to selfish ? dont get all upper case with me , these are questions not accusations
 

The-UK-Guy

Tea anyone ?
I think the difference though is I dont Proudly pump my gas laughing into the face of cancer and spark up the bbq makeing sure to use plenty of fluid and inhaleing the carbon monoxides willingly. Its tough but I try to make a consious effort to try and help, carpooling when I can and always use spf30 waterproof to protect the kids not letting them come to close to areas where people smoke. you can point out a million other things that are harmful but spare the i dont give a **** attitude this aint high school and smokers aint cool
 
Uk Guy. This was not intended to be have a go at any body on the site. This was was pure reaction to the British goverment. Yes I have been into childrens cancer wards and and adult cancer wards and have seen lots of death in my 55 years on this earth. Should we not ban all goods that cause cancerious growths in all living things. Ban booze, ban butter, ban read meat. But let me stop there. UPS drivers in the uk will not be allowed to smoke in there vans as its classed as a place of work. Will have to stop more often in the future.
 

BROWNDAWG

Active Member
Everyone has a vice of some kind man and you deserve to relax
but Just remeber that its not just big arrow up that you are hurting, you are , like it or not harming other people .
I`m not attacking you man just venting , My daughter is 7 and has a heart condition . You take the healthy heart you were blessed with for granted as do most of us , I just think you may not be such a proud smoker after visiting a childrens hospital for cancer or heart conditions. I pray that you never get the chance,
SOUNDS CRAZY BUT BREATHING OXYGEN I MEAN FRESH AIR OUTSIDE YOU CAN GET CANCER. I'M NOT KIDDING LOOK IT UP!!!
 
Lets all join together and assist all mankind. lets complain to our respective goverments . Lets stop burning fossel fuels and help make the planets air cleaner. This would be good for every one, not just a few.
 

moreluck

golden ticket member
When they passed the law in CA. of no smoking in bars and restaurants, everybody thought it was going to be the end of tourism. (Lots of Asian smokers). Well, it turns out it's not so bad. I never smoked while eating anyway. You go in a restaurant, you eat your meal and if you want a smoke, you step outside. We don't linger after eating as much as we used to.....unless we are dining with friends.

The bars are a different story. I don't drink, but if I did I think a cigarette goes along with a drink or a beer.

I think Vegas will remain the last bastion for smokers. There's more people dragging oxygen tanks around those casinos than anywhere else. No joke.
 

toonertoo

Most Awesome Dog
Staff member
How many big macs do you have to eat before the person that sits next to you every day dies from a heart attack? How many waitress, bar tenders and air stewardess have died from lung cancer or a heart attack and they them selfs do not smoke?

also, how many big macs does it take before the area you eat the big macs in smell like stale big macs?
There will always be the stories, of people who never did anything wrong who get cancer.
My fellow drivers wife got pancreatic cancer and died at 36, never smoked or drank, and she was a nurse, not fair.
My sister went to church more times in a week than ive been in decades, dropped dead at 52 of a heart attack. not right.
But smoking and overeating only increase the risk, some people just arent lucky. And we have all heard a story of some 104 yr old who smoked pall malls all his life. That was luck. Its 1/3 heredity, 1/3 luck, and 1/3 lifestyle.
And it takes about 1 hr to make a room smell like stale big macs.
 

sendagain

Well-Known Member
Dont try to make your filthy habit look insignificent by mentioning scandels , the fact is that those smokes of yours have killed far more people than all of the" True Evils" or what you think are "Real problems" combined . I for one do think its great . I gotta take a smoke break , back in 5

I'm not a smoker at all. I just don't like politicians and environmentalists running ramshod on every freedom we might enjoy in this country.
 

Overpaid Union Thug

Well-Known Member
WHEN YOU PUMP YOUR GAS AT STATION YOUR AT RISK TOO. INHALING THOSE FUMES CAUSES CANCER. WHEN YOU GO TO BEACH UV RAYS GIVE U CANCER, WHEN U COOKOUT BBQ CARBON GIVES U CANCER. SUGAR SUBSTITUTES GIVE U CANCER. TEFLON COOKWARE GIVES U CANCER. PESTICIDES USED FOR GROWING VEGGIES GIVES U CANCER. LIVING NEARBY HIGH VOLTAGE TRANSFORMERS GIVES U CANCER ETC................

LOL. The comparison of the effects of smoking on the body to the effects of eating, grilling out, eating sugar, or even breathing is just rediculously absurd. Comparing "Apples to Oranges" ring a bell? I hate to bring this to your attention but we have to breath, eat, and get gas. However, we DON'T have to smoke.
 

UPS Lifer

Well-Known Member
Yup and we also don't care what you think.

Now sure you do! You wouldn't have bothered to answer if it didn't rile you up:w00t: .....take it from an ex smoker - I did it for my family on Memorial Day in 1993. It was the best thing I ever did for myself. KARMA - give it a try, you will be glad you did.
 

The-UK-Guy

Tea anyone ?
Hey bro no offence taken, I was talking to my parents this weekend , they live in Shropshire , they reckon no ones going to listen, at least out in the rural areas any way and none of the pubs are going to enforce the law. The closest nick is about 20 miles away anyhow . I`m sure that it will be different in the citys though. I wasnt haveing a go at you either mate it was pointed towards Browndawg , and only because he refuses to take any responsibility and has a cocky attitude ,he keeps pointing the finger in other directions passing on the blame . tobaco will still be readily available over there though on the black market brought over from France etc no . Watch em raise the poll tax again to make up for the lost funds . I dont miss this kind of crap about the UK .
 
N

Non Smoker

Guest
WE go no smoking in the UK on july 1st 2007, what a day that will be !!!!!! the bars, pubs, clubs will empty!!

I always get a kick out of this argument. Don't forget the fact that a lot of new customers (like myself) will start patronizing those businesses since they won't be unconfortable in them any longer. The Ohio smoking ban enforcement starts soon. I'm looking forward to spending time in some places that I have avoided due to the smoke. For those business owners I'll be a new customer. There are many people like me out there.
 
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