Southern California locals not petitioning for Hoffa under fire!

Discussion in 'UPS Union Issues' started by Hoffa SUX, Jul 28, 2015.

  1. Hawfuh Sux

    Hawfuh Sux Old Guard Assassin!

    Southern California locals have not joined the petition campaign to get the Hoffa-hall slate accredited and they've been contacted asking...why? With the exception of Local 396 and 572 who's principal officers (Ron H and Rick M) are on the Hoffa-hall slate no other local in the area is campaigning to get them accredited.

    Numerous sources indicate they are not even a tenth near getting accredited in the West. Ron H and Rick M, both of who are upset at the lack of participation from the neighboring locals are being rejected by an upset membership who are reluctant to sign any form with the names Hoffa or hall.

    It was revealed last night by organizers @ JC 42 that text messages were sent out to shop stewards asking if they would be willing to participate in the petition campaign for Hoffa, hall, Ron H and Rick M. The reply by the overwhelming majority of shop stewards in Southern California was a loud "hell noooooo!"

    The ironic reality of all of this is that not one officer or business agent has taken the initiative to campaign on their own. Every officer, business agent and organizer in SoCal is afraid of the repercussions that will come with being associated with the Hoffa name.

    Several stewards that five years ago were defendants of the Hoffa-hall leadership have contacted me personally to reveal they made it clear they will not only not petition for Hoffa; but that they are asking people to sign and vote for Tim S and the Teamsters United slate.

    Oh boy!
     
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  2. tacken

    tacken Active Member

    Love the drama.
     
  3. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    Couldn't care less.
     
  4. Crazy Diamond

    Crazy Diamond Robot Extraordinaire

    So little in fact, you decided to tell us all.
     
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  5. Lead Belly

    Lead Belly BANNED

    Yea he's resorted to playing mind games with all 14 people that actually take the time to view this thread.
     
  6. My man,Harry!
    LMAO
     
  7. wide load

    wide load Well-Known Member

    The more anti Hoffa threads I see, the more confidence builds in the group. Thank you for sharing. What I take from the post is that Southern California is a lock for Hoffa/hall
     
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    Last edited: Jul 28, 2015
  8. Evil

    Evil Active Member

    How many signatures has Rome A gotten in the Bay Area? Is he having the same trouble Ronnie H and Ricky M are having in So Cal? Haha!!!
     
  9. 804brown

    804brown Well-Known Member

    Then go away forever. I'm pretty sure you will not be missed.
     
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  10. Evil

    Evil Active Member

    Rick M and Ron H are campaigning in SoCal with the pitch line "the signatures are for the IBT" since saying its for "Hoffa" isn't flying very well.
     
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  11. wide load

    wide load Well-Known Member

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  12. 5habits100

    5habits100 Well-Known Member

    That is what you get if TS get in. Not good for the members if this guy wins.
     
  13. 804brown

    804brown Well-Known Member

    Do you know what you get if Hoffa/hall gets re-elected?? The same s#it we have suffered with for the past 15 years!! All that experience and we are all just running in place. For all those who strive for mediocrity, by all means keep rewarding mediocrity. For all those who think we can do better and are worth better than the status quo, there is an antidote. As for experience, what Hoffa/hall have isnt experience. With experience comes learning and wisdom. After 15 yrs of hiding from the members and conceding at the table, what they have is time served, nothing more.
     
  14. wide load

    wide load Well-Known Member

    Yeah, we must all be so stupit. Sorry if us clown get in the way of your bigger plans for this :censored2:in' country.
     
  15. realbrown1

    realbrown1 Annoy a liberal today. Hit them with facts.

    Admitting that you are a CLOWN is the 1st step on the road to recovery.

    The 2nd step is to gently remove your lips from Hoffa's back side.

    The 3rd step is for you to just give up on Teamster politics.

    You have proven that your bad judgement is to never be trusted again.
     
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  16. Hawfuh Sux

    Hawfuh Sux Old Guard Assassin!

    You kiss so much Hoffa tail that you were diagnosed with anal warts!
     
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  17. Lead Belly

    Lead Belly BANNED

    I just checked it out and they have way more that the 10,000 signatures needed. Keep trolling.
     
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  18. Lead Belly

    Lead Belly BANNED

    Evidently enough.
     
  19. Lead Belly

    Lead Belly BANNED

    Yea I'm suffering with my 150k plus compensation package. My wife got her gallbladder taken out. Cost me zero dollars.
     
  20. 804brown

    804brown Well-Known Member

    Interesting but sad story from petitioning. It probably helps explain why Hoffa/hall wins every 5 years.

    While I was speaking to a Pter about who Hoffa was and how he and hall are responsible for those split raises in the last contract, he sort of lamented that "Now I'm only getting one raise a year instead of 2!!" I shook my head in disbelief. It took me awhile to explain to him how he made less those years because of the split raises. But he eventually got it.
    It's not just apathy that works in their (H2O's) favor; it is also the ignorance of some of the membership. Add the fear factor: "Tim will harm/destroy/undermine/eat...(you add the scary verb) our strong Intl..." or "You can't trust him because he is inexperienced (though he is 36 yrs a Teamster)!!"
    My point here isn't to be pessimistic. What I'm trying to say is only a committed grassroots campaign that educates the membership, tells them the truth and keeps them informed will overcome the apathy, ignorance and fear inherent in the membership. I think Tim's team is currently doing that...state by state, hub by hub, member to member.
     
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